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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12663 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:02 am Post subject: What mutes do you carry? |
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I have been frustrated with my current mute bag and would like to create my own custom case. But I would like to make it to hold what I might need in most gigs. So I thought I would ask the members what mutes they regularly carry.
What is in your mute bag?
1. Straight mute. How many?
2. Cup mute? How many?
3. Bucket? More than one?
4. Plunger? More than one?
5. Other mutes?
6. Trumpet stand? More than one? Mfgr?
7. Flugelhorn mutes? Stand(s)?
8. Music?
9. Other? |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 12663 Location: Gardena, Ca
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:07 am Post subject: Re: What mutes do you carry? |
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LittleRusty wrote: | I have been frustrated with my current mute bag and would like to create my own custom case. But I would like to make it to hold what I might need in most gigs. So I thought I would ask the members what mutes they regularly carry.
What is in your mute bag?
1. Straight mute. How many?
2. Cup mute? How many?
3. Bucket? More than one?
3a. Harmon? How many?
4. Plunger? More than one?
5. Other mutes?
6. Trumpet stand? More than one? Mfgr?
7. Flugelhorn mutes? Stand(s)?
8. Music?
9. Other? |
Edit: Forgot to add Harmon. |
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PW-Factor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 19 Mar 2009 Posts: 909 Location: Joliet, IL
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:13 am Post subject: |
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For my mute bag on my Torpedo:
1.) Brass-Bottom Tom Crown Straight Mute
2.) Red and White Stone Line Cup Mute
3.) Aluminum Harmon Brand Harmon Mute
4.) Rubber Sink Plunger from Menard's
5.) Copper Jo-Ral Bubble Mute
I have a couple more straight mutes at home I take for certain occasions.
I find this covers 80%+ of what I need. I could probably use a Bucket Mute (most likely a Soulo) and a Solotone mute for musicals in the near future.
I used a Piccolo straight mute once. That's it. _________________ Ska/Reggae - The Selectones
New Orleans Funk - The Big Lagniappe
Raw Brass HB2 - Hammond PW
Gen II ACB Doubler Flugel - Curry 5FL |
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 9363 Location: Heart of Dixie
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Normally, I have a straight, cup, harmon, plunger, and Crown Royal bag in my case, along with a trumpet stand. If I'm doing a big band gig, I add a bucket and cleartone and a flugelhorn stand. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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gbdeamer Heavyweight Member
Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 2302
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Dale Proctor wrote: | Normally, I have a straight, cup, harmon, plunger, and Crown Royal bag in my case, along with a trumpet stand. If I'm doing a big band gig, I add a bucket and cleartone and a flugelhorn stand. |
I'm very similar to this. |
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gbshelbymi Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Jan 2013 Posts: 1032 Location: Travelers Rest, SC
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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I have the new protec m404 mute bag loaded with straight, cup, Harmon, pixie and plunger, plus a mute rack and stand light. Technically the last two could be removed and the slots used for other mutes such as bucket or whisper. Highly recommend the bag. _________________ Greg
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Getzen 3850 Custom - Kanstul 1525 Flugelhorn - Getzen Severinsen Eterna LB - 70s Bach 180ML37 - 70s Bach CL 229 25C - CarolBrass Pocket - 40 Conn 80A etc. |
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8333 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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As few as possible. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
Selmer Radial Bb Trumpet
Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
Besson 709 Bb Trumpet
Bach 184L Bb Cornet
Yamaha 731 Bb Flugelhorn |
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ENINCA Veteran Member
Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 185 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 1:46 pm Post subject: Two |
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I only play small group jazz and I carry a jo-ral copper bubble mute and a Denis Wick adjustable cup mute in my horn case. They fit in there so that I don't have to have a separate mute bag and between those two mutes, I get a lot of different options for style and color of tone and buzz. _________________ "Some days you get up and put the horn to your chops and it sounds pretty good and you win. Some days you try and nothing works and the horn wins. This goes on and on and then you die and the horn wins." -Dizzy Gillespie |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8914 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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In my bag:
1.) Straight - JoRal Copper-Bottom
2.) Cup - H&B Stonelined
3.) Harmon - JoRal Copper Bubble
4.) Plunger - Home Depot
5.) SoloTone - H&B Stonelined
6.) Bucket - EasyBucket
7.) Velvet Bag - Crown Royal (in two sizes)
Also K&M trumpet and Flugel stands and picc stand as needed, music, water bottle, oil, mouthpieces... My ProTec triple carries all that and a ton more.
I leave at home:
8.) Piccolo Straight - JoRal
9.) Pixie - H&B
10.) Straight - JoRal Aluminum
11.) Harmon - JoRal Aluminum
12.) Practice - Yamaha Silent
13.) Practice - Trumcor Stealth
14.) Bucket - H&B Stonelined _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
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RandyTX Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 5299 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Crazy Finn wrote: | As few as possible. |
I certainly can agree with this point. Especially since the bolt-on mute bag for my Coyote 2.5 is somewhat "space-challenged". I have to make decisions for various groups on what to put inside when I am using that. Most of the time when I do, I'm going to orchestra though I usually just bring one or two bell stands and a straight. Sometimes two straights, depending upon what is being played.
For a wind ensemble type group or something jazz oriented I usually bring a H&B cup, a trumcor copper-bottom straight, my ancient Harmon branded harmon, a plunger and a crown royal bag.
I also have a Joral bubble which I usually don't carry with me due to the size of it. I have several other straight and cup mutes with unique sounds depending upon what is needed. I normally don't carry any of these unless I know I'm going to need them.
I also have two Neo-Mute sets ( http://mutesandmore.com/neo.html), one for cornet or trumpet, and one custom-made to fit my flugel. They can be quite handy on occasion though, especially when you want a really soft sound without changing the tone or intonation. They're also very small and compact, so can be added into just about any case if I have a need for them.
I don't have any mutes other than the Neo for my flugel, and when I go to brass band that's all I've been playing for the last several seasons, so I don't have to bring any mutes with me which is a blessing.
On the rare occasion when I need a lot of mutes and/or stands and they won't fit in whatever case I'm bringing along, I use the side-mounted mute bag off an old Protec triple case. It's the only part of that case I use. I never trusted the case itself for anything. Too much like a big, bulky dent bag. Disaster waiting to happen. |
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 2415 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Dale Proctor wrote: | Normally, I have a straight, cup, harmon, plunger, and Crown Royal bag in my case, along with a trumpet stand. If I'm doing a big band gig, I add a bucket and cleartone and a flugelhorn stand. |
This is similar to what I carry in my mute bag - straight, cup, harmon, plunger, and if I think I'll need it, a Soulo bucket mute.
Mike _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns. |
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VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 7196 Location: Greenfield WI
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I hesitate to answer because I just play concert band stuff but I bring a straight, adjustable cup, and bubble "Harmon", all Humes and Berg, with a (discontinued) Jo-Ral three-mute holder. Based on the needs of the music, I then leave home whatever I'm not going to use.
I purposely got an old-fashioned case like we all had in school 35 years ago so they're easy to carry.
I was surprised that I actually had a use for a plunger last spring (though we cut that piece because it sucked so bad).
Tom _________________ 1950 Buescher Lightweight 400 Trumpet
1949 Buescher 400 Trumpet
1939 Buescher 400 Cornet
GR65M, GR65 Cor #1 |
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Kimberly Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 128 Location: Hillside, IL
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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In my mute bag (a fairly large leather camera bag) for big band:
2 Straight - Shastock, Tom Crown Gemini
2 Cup - H&B Stonelined, Dennis Wick Adjustable
Harmon - JoRal Copper Bubble
Bucket - H&B Stonelined
Plunger - Ace Hardware (powder blue)
Pixie - H&B metal
Solotone - Shastock
Infant's Hat - Crown Royal equivalent
K&M trumpet and Flugel stands
Mighty Bright Encore LED Music Light
Jo-Ral mute holder
Usually left home:
Straight - H&B Stonelined, Tom Crown Copper Bottom and Tom Crown Brass Bottom
Cup - Tom Crown Aluminum
Soulo - I like this one but I carry the H&B Bucket to match the section
Practice - Trumcor
Derby - Elton Aluminum |
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Nonsense Eliminator Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2003 Posts: 5212 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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I carry what I need. If for some reason I don't know what I'm going to need I might bring cup, straight, and Harmon, and possibly a quiet straight mute and/or a plunger which I can usually jam in somewhere. Bucket and solotone stay on the shelf unless I know I need them. When I can't jam them in a case, I often use a 4-bottle canvas wine bag -- it keeps things from rattling around too much and it seems eminently appropriate. _________________ Richard Sandals
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Lawler Bb Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2002 Posts: 1140 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Straight: Tom Crown aluminum
Cup: 1940s Shastock Tonalcolor
Harmon: Jo-Ral aluminum
Plunger
Crown Royal Bag
Trumpet stand(s)
Jo-Ral three mute holder (Thanks Tom!)
Stand Light(s)
Trumpet mic and cable
Rarely do I need more than one of the same type of mute, but it happens. All of the above generally fits in my trumpet case, but I also use an old duffel bag on occasion.
Mutes in reserve depending on need:
Straight: Tom Crown copper bottom, Alessi-Vacchiano, Ray Robinson, Denis Wick
Cup: H&B (x2 with corks filed for different horns), Denis Wick
Harmon: Charles Davis copper, old Harmon brand copper
Solotone: H&B Cleartone
Bucket: Jo-Ral brass bottom
Pixie: H&B
Come to think of it, it might be time for me to find a better way of transporting my mutes. Seems like more scratches and dents are appearing weekly/monthly. _________________ Eric Sperry
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VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 7196 Location: Greenfield WI
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Lawler Bb Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2002 Posts: 1140 Location: Milwaukee, WI
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trombahonker Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 1480 Location: Atlanta
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Wick straight
bonna small straight
lyric straight
wick cup
Joral bubble
slitted hat |
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loweredsixth Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1844 Location: Fresno, California, USA, North America, Earth, Solar System, Orion Arm, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:44 am Post subject: |
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always:
Jo-Ral straight (brass bottom)
Denis Wick cup
Best Brass aluminum harmon
Mutec plunger
only when specifically needed:
Jo-Ral bucket (brass bottom)
Bremner Ssshhhh
H&B metal pixie
H&B solotone
H&B Melowah
H&B derby hat
H&B cup
H&B mica mute _________________ The name I go by in the real world is Joe Lewis |
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mm55 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1412
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:00 am Post subject: |
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I play with a horn section that's in a few different rock/soul/jazz combos, and for that section, I bring an old Harmon (with plunger) that I use on one tune, and a blue rubber plumber's plunger for possibly use in blues solos. Together with a stand, these mutes fit in my case without needed a separate mute bag.
For concert band, I get out the mute bag (a re-purposed Black & Decker toolbag). I add a Tom Crown straight and a Denis Wick cup, and replace the Harmon with a Jo-Ral bubble. At the section leader or director's request, I'll substituted a Vacciano straight or a Stonelined cup. For big band or pit orchestra, add a black tuque (Crown Royal alternative), H&B derby, H&B bucket.
I've been interested in Facets for a while, but have not actually gone shopping yet. I should have a Shastock/SoloTone/ClearTone of some kind, but I don't. _________________ '75 Bach Strad 180ML/37
'79 King Silver Flair
'07 Flip Oakes Wild Thing
'42 Selmer US
'90 Yamaha YTR6450S(C)
'12 Eastman ETR-540S (D/Eb)
'10 Carol CPT-300LR pkt
'89 Yamaha YCR2330S crnt
'13 CarolBrass CFL-6200-GSS-BG flg
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