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Dayton
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| Quote: | | I feel a little frustrated on behalf of Taiwanese trumpets, because I've now tried a fair number and wish they'd get more credit. It's pretty clear Carol is now making equipment for a lot of other makers out there, |
Both Jason Harrelson and Terry Warburton use, or used, the Hoxon Gakki (CarolBrass) valve block on their horns. I don't know about long-term durability, but the valves on my Harrelson and Warburton trumpets felt as smooth and fast as the valves on my Bachs or on the Yamaha trumpets I've tried.
I believe the majority of the parts for Terry's horns are also made by CarolBrass and then assembled by Terry. They seemed high quality as well, though again I cannot comment on their long-term durability (or repairability). |
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel
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| Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| I hadn't heard about those (Harrelson, Warburton) too, but then after I read your post I googled and found INTJ's old comparison of a Harrelson vs Carolbrass where the valves are interchangeable. It will be interesting to see what the market is like in 20 or 30 years. It seems to be a good age to live in for any price point--custom trumpets, high end trumpets, good cheaper instruments. |
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Rod Haney
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| StupidBrassObsession wrote: | | SatchmoGillespie wrote: | | I own a 6280 that I traded in my Bach 43 in for and I love it. It's taken me a while to get the valves broken in but I've started to get them where I want them and it's been great. Probably will be even better once I get a valve alignment.
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Hey, just a quick note - are you regularly cleaning out the valve casing and cleaning the actual valves?
I'm fairly sure the reason why my C-trumpet valves aren't as good as the 5060(H) that I bought is because I played it (the C-trumpet) for a a few days then put it in the case and left for a couple of months.
I'm not sure if it's because they're stainless valves(?), but they seem to initially create a bit of black stuff when first being broken in that needs to be cleaned off regularly. On the C trumpet, because I left it, it's dried on inside the valve holes and it wont come off even with a scrub, so I suspect there is some invisible residue build up on the rest of the valves/casing that need to be properly cleaned off as well and then they'll be back to normal.
It says something about it here:
http://brasscellar.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/how-to-choose-a-carolbrass-trumpet/
| Quote: | | When you get a new horn � make sure that you rinse out the horn � there is residue that settles in the horn and gets into the valves � be sure to give your horn a rinse through upon receipt of it. Then over the next few weeks be sure to keep the valve casings and valve pistons clean as you will notice black residue in there. Just wipe with a soft cloth � re-oil, and re-insert your valves. Repeat several times over the first few weeks. |
I did this faithfully with the Bb-trumpet I bought and the valves work beautifully  |
That’s lapping compound. You should get this cleaned thoroughly before playing much more. It cuts and should never be left in a new or repaired horn. This is one disadvantage with mass makers no mater how good, things fall thru the cracks. If new you might get a replacement if you start your process with Carol distributor.
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aseligman
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| Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:07 pm Post subject: Carolbrass pocket trumpet |
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The good:
really good build quality, slides smooth, valves excellent, and huge sound for a pocket trumpet because of the big bell probably. It also can get a nice mellow jazz sound. Also, they get really creative with finishes, materials, etc. so you can get these with bling if you want.
Also, the little hard case they include is actually really good and will fit inside a regular size backpack for traveling on planes and fitting in the overhead bin. I use this as my travel trumpet.
The bad:
The middle line G is annoyingly flat. You have to avoid slurring from the C to the G in the staff. Everything else as a good in tune as a good horn. It might just be my horn, don't know, so maybe try before you buy if possible. |
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ENINCA
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| Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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My main horns are Carolbrass. I'm an amateur on a budget and when I found they play so incredibly well for the money spent, it was a no-brainer. My trumpet is a 6280H model I got used from Trent Austin. It's really an excellent horn. I also play a Carolbrass 6200 Rose Brass bell Flugel. It's beautiful and I love the tone. It has good intonation except one note, the A in the staff is sharp. That's a bit of a drag, but I've learned to compensate and the intonation all over the scale besides that note is very good.
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supercow216
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| Andy Del wrote: | | nicklambo700 wrote: | | Thanks for all of the info guys! Now after doing more research I've narrowed it down to two horns. The 5060H with sterling silver leadpipe heavy model, or the 7770 all yellow brass leightweight model. Any thoughts? |
A couple of my students have the 5060 trumpet and it seems to be a good all round instrument. Unless you need something specialised, I'd go for this.
Cheers
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I have a 5060h.
It looks beautiful and has amazing valves, and free-blowing. The sound is however very dark, even if I use small mouthpiece. If you play classical or like Chet sound, it may be great.
I play in a fanfare band, so this is actually a down side since the projection is lacking. I would bring my yamaha student horn for the job
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HaveTrumpetWillTravel
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| Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| I realized I'm now up to 5 carolbrass trumpets, including the C pocket, mini pocket, 506, 530, and a 7770. I really like the 506, which is the predecessor of the 5060, and my 530 is basically a clone of the 506 but with nickel. They are fun instruments. I bought them all used. My only regret is my three full size B flats all have basically the same bell profile. I got to try their full line once and my favorite was the balanced trumpet. |
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