Adams Cornets

Sarcastic Musician · Regular Member Joined: 10 Sep 2008 Posts: 77

Has anyone had any experience playing these? I've searched the forum, and I can't find any reference to them.

scatanas · Veteran Member Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Posts: 298

Never played one. I've owned a Adams A4 trumpet and it was one of the finest instruments I've ever played.

Give Trent Austin a call with any questions you have regarding any Adams products. He's a great person and very helpful as well.
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connicalman · Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:21 pm Post subject:

The Adams cornet is an excellent machine. I was up to ACB last weekend and played one for a short time.

It fit my wide palm and my short fingers. I had no difficulty exercising the 1st and 3rd slides. If your hand is smaller or your fingers are longer, you'll do fine as well. No balance issues in the hand or at the chops when bringing a note into its scale via the left hand. Did I need to? Very little. Only as is inherent to the realm.

Why write "machine"? Because it is equal to or superior in build to any cornet I've tried. That includes a standard of excellence in the form of the Olds R-5 Recording. Might the Adams be in a tie with other top-notch modern short shepherd crook cornets? That's a comparison for another person to provide.

The Wick 4 and the Reynolds 5A mouthpieces I had with me did exactly what you'd expect them to do. There was plenty of secure and immediate response with both, along with just enough "cushion". Think bandwidth, headroom, legroom, whatever analogy you wish to think of in terms of integrity of timbre and 'blow'. IMO the cornet would do well however you led it, even if you attempted to lead it astray.

This cornet expressed a stable core and retained that quality however I pushed it. Beyond these impressions IDK enough to recognize any quirks. The Adams cornet is a fine instrument. So do I want one? Gawd ya! Did I go home and forget about the rest of the horses in the stable? Almost. It did make me wonder if I might liquidate holdings of many good horns in order to have just a few of the best, tho to be fair to you (edit: and to the other companies who build and market similar instruments) I haven't tried enough with the same wrap to offer an a/b.

Hope this helps. (...call Trent)
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Sarcastic Musician · Regular Member Joined: 10 Sep 2008 Posts: 77

Thank you very much for the well written, and very informative reply. I found a used one for a fantastic price. It's already in the mail.

connicalman · Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:33 pm Post subject:

Got it yet? Inquiring minds need to know!
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Gregg Peele · Regular Member Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 58

I bought the first Adams cornet sold in the US from Trent. It is a fine instrument that plays as well as any I've tried. I've had many other horns.

It does have a fine sound and is versatile. For me, it didn't have the sound my conductor wanted in our brass band. It was a joy to play and may suit others fine. The horn was extremely well made.

Sarcastic Musician · Regular Member Joined: 10 Sep 2008 Posts: 77

I won't have it for a while. It takes some extra time for large, insured packages to get to me in Japan. After I've played it a little I'll post a few thoughts.

sparxIV · Veteran Member Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 257

G. Peele ................. the sound your conductor wanted ????

Cheers,
ted
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connicalman · Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:04 am Post subject: Re: cornets

eagle362 · Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:27 am Post subject:

G. Peele ................. the sound your conductor wanted ????

Cheers,
ted

I sold an old Bach 3C to a friend for their son. The HS conductor required all the trumpets to have Bach 3c mpcs so they would all sound alike>>>>>
Mark
Sorry for the off topic reply.......
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bwoodard · Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:06 am Post subject:

Dale Proctor · Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:41 am Post subject:

RandyTX · Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:54 pm Post subject:

Order a Curry 10.5 XS in a Bach blank for the kid. The director will never know it's not a 3C.

Gregg Peele · Regular Member Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 58

Our conductor is a Besson Artist and that's the sound he wanted.

Gregg

veery715 · Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:47 pm Post subject:

Sarcastic Musician · Regular Member Joined: 10 Sep 2008 Posts: 77

When I finally got my new (for me) Adams Cornet I was immediately impressed with how it looked. I'm definitely care way more about how a horn functions than how it looks, but I can still appreciate the way an instrument looks. This one looks absolutely beautiful (pictures may follow).

It's a CN1 with a Gold Brass bell, and has a third valve slide trigger as well as a main tuning slide trigger, and both work perfectly and feel comfortable. The valves are unsurprisingly amazing (Adams owns Bauerfeind).

I haven't played many cornets, and hardly any professional models. A couple of years ago I played with a British style Brass Band, and they lent me a Yamaha 2330. It was OK, but extremely tight in the upper register. I've tooted a little on a friends Getzen 3850(?) and Smith-Watkins, but not enough to give a good comparison, and it was several years ago.

This horn plays wonderfully. As I'm mainly a trumpet player I realize there will be several general tendencies that I'll have to get accustomed to, but other than a couple notes in the upper register not slotting where I expected them to, it's been a very easy transition (so far). I barely need to use the triggers the intonation is so good, and the horn is VERY consistent throughout its (my) range. I really couldn't be happier, and I think I'll be playing this one for a very long time.

Now I have to get a cornet mouthpiece that's somewhere in the same ballpark as the diameter I play on trumpet. I'm looking at getting a Curry 3BBC. and a friend has a Warburton 3BC and some backbores he'll let me try in a couple of months. Any suggestions?

Dale Proctor · Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:05 am Post subject:

The Curry 3BBC. is a very good mouthpiece (and is inexpensive, too). Try one before looking too much at other mouthpieces.
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connicalman · Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:47 am Post subject:

Congrats. i found the very same thing, so far as where the notes land above the staff. Once I listened, it was clear that the Adams CN1 was teaching me something.

Enjoy!
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Other Conns: Victor 5A & 38A, New Wonder & 80A; 'stella 38A; 36A; 'quest 76A...

p76 · Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:17 pm Post subject:

Can't wait to see some Adams' appearing in Brass Band circles - looking at their website and the specs of the horn they are targeting that market.

Cheers,
Roger
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gluzband · Regular Member Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 17 Location: NYC

tried it last week.

one of the best horns on the planet.

CN1......that means the trigger actually moves the main tuning slide.

NICE!

gluzband