Lou has a new to her cornet

lmf · Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 4:39 pm Post subject:

Hi Lou,

As a parent, I've found that my children followed their own paths as it relates to music expression. I played trumpet/cornet, guitar and performed vocally. I continue to do that though not as much as I did when I was younger and in better health.

My oldest son (age 44) didn't follow the path of playing a music instrument. However, his two children (my grandchildren) both did. My oldest grandson (age 22) played clarinet in school band and now plays guitar. His younger sister plays clarinet in the school band, too.

My second son (age 37) played percussion is school band and continues to play drums today. His daughters (my granddaughters) are involved in sports in school.

My daughter (age 35) is a vocalist and is involved in the Praise Team in her church and performs as a guest at other functions from time to time. Her mother (my late wife) was a vocalist, too.

My oldest stepson (age 43) played baritone) in high school band and enjoyed it. My youngest stepson (age 35) played trombone when he was in high school band, but didn't like it and eventually dropped out of band altogether However, his oldest son/my grandson (age 14) plays trumpet in school band and appears to like it and is doing well. He comes to visit our home each week and my wife and I practice with him. He plays trumpet, my wife plays flugelhorn and I play cornet.

Lou, it appears your eleven year old son has other interests, hobbies and endeavors that make a mother proud.

One of your daughters is involved in music through singing and dancing. She is attends school where brass music is encouraged. Time will tell if she will become interested in brass music. Singing and dancing teaches discipline and involves music, too.

It appears that your youngest daughter has been around music her whole life. She may show interest in music and playing a musical instrument in the future. She will follow her interests as most children do.

My late wife and I wanted our children and grandchildren to follow their hobbies and other interests, too. My second wife and I share the same opinion and do our best to support our children and grandchildren in their endeavors, hobbies and interests. Together, we have five adult children and nine grandchildren. It is a blessing to watch the children and grandchildren in their endeavors, hobbies and interests as we did when we were younger and still do today.

Best wishes,

Lloyd

Louise Finch · Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:43 am Post subject:

Louise Finch · Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 4:56 am Post subject:

Hi

After getting my new to me cornet, I thought simply for interests sake, I'd take a nose at its specifications:

http://trevorjonesltd.co.uk/YamahaXenoBbCornetYCR-8335.htm

especially in regard to the Maestro I had years ago:

http://trevorjonesltd.co.uk/ycr6335hsuk.htm

and the Neo:

http://trevorjonesltd.co.uk/Yamaha_833502_8335S02_8335G02_8335GS02_Neo_Cornet.htm

Specification wise they are identical, although the Neo is described as having "a goldbrass tuning slide crook & connecting tube."

Just for interests sake, I wonder has anyone spent enough time on all three cornets to ascertain how they compare.

I'm extremely happy with mine, so have no wish to try the Neo. As I said, I'm simply interested in how they differ.

All the best

Lou
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Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
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trumpetmike · Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:33 am Post subject:

Louise Finch · Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:24 pm Post subject:

Louise Finch · Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:50 am Post subject:

Hi

I'm still loving the Xeno, so things have turned out well.

All the best

Lou
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Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs

Louise Finch · Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:54 am Post subject:

Hi

Well here is a quick review.

I play in a pretty standard modern British Brass Band. A few pieces for our new 2014 season, are Cartoon Capers, a selection containing the Looney Tunes and The Simpson's themes, Arnhem, a march, a selection from Mozart's Magic Flute, and a combination of the Lord Gavest (hymn) and Sunset (bugle call I suppose).

Therefore a variety of cornet sounds from bright and heralding like a trumpet, to a mellow and traditional sound, are called for.

In my opinion, this cornet does all this, very well.

I've gone for the yellow brass bell, which probably does the brighter stuff better and more effort is needed for a mellower sound, but it works well across the board, and I would say that either the gold or yellow brass bell models, would work well in an average brass band.

This cornet for me, has average playing characteristics, sufficiently open not to feel stuffy, but with enough resistance to give upper register support and reasonable endurance.

Intonation is very good.

Being used to using the stiff first slide trigger for a thumb rest on my Bach Strad, I have to be careful not to mistakenly press the first slide trigger, as it moves very freely. I'd prefer it to be stiffer. For some reason, my 3rd slide trigger is stiffer. Maybe it is just my cornet. The positioning of the third slide trigger is far too far away from the valve block for my tiny hands, worse for me than the Sovereign. The 1st slide trigger is easy to use.

I don't really have anything to say. This is basically a very good cornet with medium playing characteristics, that does everything across the board very well. I'd just like a stiffer 1st slide trigger spring, and the 3rd slide trigger level closer to the valve block, but I am used to the stiff first slide trigger of the Bach Strad, and have very small hands, so probably neither of these would be an issue for most players.

All the best

Lou
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Trumpets:
Yamaha 8335 Xeno II
Bach Strad 180ML/37
B&H Oxford
Kanstul F Besson C
Yamaha D and D/Eb
- James R New Custom 3Cs
Flugel:
Bach Strad 183 - Bach 3CFL
Cornets:
Yamaha Neo + Xeno
Bach Strad 184ML
B&H Imperial
- Kanstul Custom 3Cs

richardwy · Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:02 am Post subject:

Huzzah! Knock 'em dead, Louise

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Louise Finch · Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:29 am Post subject:

Rapier232 · Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:58 am Post subject:

You could try a slide grease on your 1st trigger and valve oil on the 3rd.

Your programme is that Evening Hymn and Sunset ( by Rob Wiffen, I think) ?

If not suggest that one to your band. Terrific arrangement.
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Louise Finch · Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 1:42 pm Post subject:

Rapier232 · Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:39 pm Post subject:

We used that music to end a concert in a theatre a few years ago. We placed the cornets at various spots round the venue for it. Very effective.

We opened with Zulu. Lights off, commentary as the timps play and red lights coming up slowly.

As for the triggers I only use valve oil on the slides. On one of my trumpets the 3rd slide is a bit too loose so I use the Selmer grease you mentioned.
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Smith-Watkins Bb
Will Spencer Bb
Eclipse Flugel
Smith Watkins K2 Cornet
JP152 C Trumpet
Besson Bugle

cheiden · Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 3:51 pm Post subject:

FWIW I'm a big fan of Bach rotor oil on slides. It's much quicker than most typical slide greases. And though not quite as quick as valve oil, it's plenty fast enough and it lasts really well.
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razeontherock · Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:43 pm Post subject:

etc-etc · Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 6187

Lou,

The third slide can be stiff because of friction between the spring and the axle of the trigger. Put a couple drops of rotor oil on the curl of the spring that wraps around the axle. You may want also to disassemble the trigger (take off one screw connecting the third slide with the S arm, while pulling the trigger slightly to avoid friction. Clean the surfaces of the moving and stationary tubes, and oil with rotor oil. Assemble by pulling the trigger to bring the S arm into position. Be careful with the small screw as it is easy to get lost. Use a screwdriver that matches the screw well.

Louise Finch · Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:09 am Post subject:

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Louise Finch · Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:14 am Post subject:

SirBuzzALot · Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:19 am Post subject:

I Guessed it would be a yammie after the other thread about meatsro's and xeno's / neo's !

Still playing my Meastro 12 years after I was 'told to' lol - would like to give the xeno / neo a blow to see how they compare.

Stick with it and resist going back to 'what your used to' so that you give it a fair go.

Any future mouthpiece changes should be easier to assess as you would be used to the cornet and would not be worrying about the instrumnet.

Al
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