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deleted_user_1dac1c5 New Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:42 pm Post subject: Best Plunger mute? |
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I know I can use a sink plunger or normal plunger or buy one, but I honestly have no idea which one to get that sounds good. Please enlighten me on this subject! Thank you! |
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VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 7196 Location: Greenfield WI
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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I use a Humes and Berg Tuxedo plunger, myself. Yes, I know it costs more.
But I dislike playing with plumbing tools.
They also still make the Glenn Miller plunger mutes that the Miller band used in the 30s.
Tom _________________ 1950 Buescher Lightweight 400 Trumpet
1949 Buescher 400 Trumpet
1939 Buescher 400 Cornet
GR65M, GR65 Cor #1 |
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Adam V Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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The small, blue sink plungers found at Rite Aid. The standard terracotta-colored plungers are too big for trumpet, and are best saved for use on trombone. _________________ 1970 Bach 37 Strad
Yamaha 635 flugel
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gchun01 Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Be it a sink plunger or specially music made plunger mute, I always prefer an oversized plunger. It's easier for me to manipulate/manage the pitch when the plunger "bowl" is larger.
I usually use a plunger the size a tenor trombonist would use. The red and white Humes and Berg rubber plunger (with built in finger ring) also works well for me. I don't know if it is still being made since I don't see it in their catalog.
I also prefer rubber since you can bend it to allow how much air/sound comes out. |
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 8911 Location: Orange County, CA
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I hear you can buy a newfangled coconut mute for that!
I personally like the smaller (maybe 4-5") garden variety plunger but I can't always find them at the hardware store. I'll look the next time I'm at Rite Aid. _________________ "I'm an engineer, which means I think I know a whole bunch of stuff I really don't."
Charles J Heiden/So Cal
Bach Strad 180ML43*/43 Bb/Yamaha 731 Flugel/Benge 1X C/Kanstul 920 Picc/Conn 80A Cornet
Bach 3C rim on 1.5C underpart |
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gbdeamer Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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Adam V wrote: | The small, blue sink plungers found at Rite Aid. The standard terracotta-colored plungers are too big for trumpet, and are best saved for use on trombone. |
Plungers come in various sizes and colors.
I still have a local hardware store so I was able to borrow a few different ones to try at home before I purchased. _________________ 1987 Bach Strad 37
2005 Bach Strad 43*
ACB Doubler's Flugel
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giakara Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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I prefer a P&H London rubber plunger for my trumpet (lite and easy with nice tuninig) and a terrific vintage Shastock white T.Dorsey plunger for my cornet (realy old time sound specialy when i mached it with a old no name pixie i have ) , the rubber H&B did works for me i prefer the Humes and Berg Tuxedo plunger and also i have try many others until to find the one i like , dont forget to mension the cheap but very good EMO plastic plunger.
Regards _________________ Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2015
Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
Getzen eterna 910 C
Getzen eterna 850 cornet
Selmer Paris 3 valve picc
Yamaha 731 flugel
Carol mini pocket
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dmb Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2002 Posts: 1305 Location: Anderson, IN
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: Best Plunger mute? |
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Jloon36 wrote: | I know I can use a sink plunger or normal plunger or buy one, but I honestly have no idea which one to get that sounds good. Please enlighten me on this subject! Thank you! |
Rubber sink plungers are used by a huge % of pros. Usually 4 or 5". If it's good enough for Snooky Young, it's good enough for me.
Amazon, Home Depot, Lowes, just about any local hardware store for a few bucks. _________________ Dan Burton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWuX9zPJWyY
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cheiden Heavyweight Member
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gbdeamer Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Best Plunger mute? |
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dmb wrote: | Jloon36 wrote: | I know I can use a sink plunger or normal plunger or buy one, but I honestly have no idea which one to get that sounds good. Please enlighten me on this subject! Thank you! |
Rubber sink plungers are used by a huge % of pros. Usually 4 or 5". If it's good enough for Snooky Young, it's good enough for me.
Amazon, Home Depot, Lowes, just about any local hardware store for a few bucks. |
Well said... _________________ 1987 Bach Strad 37
2005 Bach Strad 43*
ACB Doubler's Flugel
1948 Holton Model 48 |
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VetPsychWars Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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gchun01 wrote: |
I usually use a plunger the size a tenor trombonist would use. The red and white Humes and Berg rubber plunger (with built in finger ring) also works well for me. I don't know if it is still being made since I don't see it in their catalog.
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Here it is!
http://www.humesandberg.com/product_detail.php?product=13
Tom _________________ 1950 Buescher Lightweight 400 Trumpet
1949 Buescher 400 Trumpet
1939 Buescher 400 Cornet
GR65M, GR65 Cor #1 |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Adam V wrote: | The small, blue sink plungers found at Rite Aid. The standard terracotta-colored plungers are too big for trumpet, and are best saved for use on trombone. |
I use a terra cotta colored one myself. Not the trombone/toilet size, but the sink/trumpet size. These are the same size as the colored ones I have seen in my area. Ymmv. |
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gchun01 Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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VetPsychWars wrote: | gchun01 wrote: |
I usually use a plunger the size a tenor trombonist would use. The red and white Humes and Berg rubber plunger (with built in finger ring) also works well for me. I don't know if it is still being made since I don't see it in their catalog.
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Here it is!
http://www.humesandberg.com/product_detail.php?product=13
Tom |
That's the one! Nice search skills. Don't know why I had no luck.
Garry |
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Adam V Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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LittleRusty wrote: | Adam V wrote: | The small, blue sink plungers found at Rite Aid. The standard terracotta-colored plungers are too big for trumpet, and are best saved for use on trombone. |
I use a terra cotta colored one myself. Not the trombone/toilet size, but the sink/trumpet size. These are the same size as the colored ones I have seen in my area. Ymmv. |
Awesome. I rarely see those in sink size. _________________ 1970 Bach 37 Strad
Yamaha 635 flugel
Marcinkiewicz E3/3C |
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Ole Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:11 pm Post subject: Plunger mute |
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One of my favorite plunger mute scenes is in the 1980 Blues Brothers movie.
Cab Calloway is belting out Minnie the Moocher and Alan Rubin aka " Mr. Fabulous" is growling away with a gold painted sink plunger. |
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pinstriper Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2013 Posts: 340 Location: Portlandia, OR
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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gchun01 wrote: | Be it a sink plunger or specially music made plunger mute, I always prefer an oversized plunger. It's easier for me to manipulate/manage the pitch when the plunger "bowl" is larger.
I usually use a plunger the size a tenor trombonist would use. The red and white Humes and Berg rubber plunger (with built in finger ring) also works well for me. I don't know if it is still being made since I don't see it in their catalog.
I also prefer rubber since you can bend it to allow how much air/sound comes out. |
Bought one in December. I tried a $1 plunger from...the dollar store (surprise!) It smelled like gasoline. _________________ ~'77 DEG Dynasty II Soprano Bugle in G
'13 Chinese POS "Hawk" branded Flugel
'59 Olds Ambassador Cornet
'51 Olds Super
'69 Olds Studio
'40 Olds Special Cornet, Military Issued |
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pinstriper Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Plunger mute |
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Ole wrote: | One of my favorite plunger mute scenes is in the 1980 Blues Brothers movie.
Cab Calloway is belting out Minnie the Moocher and Alan Rubin aka " Mr. Fabulous" is growling away with a gold painted sink plunger. |
I am so going to do this, even if it only lasts for one gig. _________________ ~'77 DEG Dynasty II Soprano Bugle in G
'13 Chinese POS "Hawk" branded Flugel
'59 Olds Ambassador Cornet
'51 Olds Super
'69 Olds Studio
'40 Olds Special Cornet, Military Issued |
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
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AJCarter Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have one of the small blue sink plungers and it works fine. I also have one of the H&B Glenn Miller plungers, matched with short mute for when the pair is needed. Otherwise I just use my blue one. |
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Tony Scodwell Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:12 am Post subject: Plungers |
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Worth repeating...Working with Snooky for some years, I LOVED the blue rubber plunger he used and never could find one similar. It was quite a bit larger in diameter than the red rubber ones you see everywhere and the newer blue plastic ones popping up. In Japan with a tour, I wandered into the equivalent of a Lowe's store and found the exact plunger. It was the same blue and the same size. I bought a few for myself and friends plus one to replace Snooky's old one which he had glued together with silicone seal and cords. You just trimmed the inner lip off and it really is the best I've found. Big enough volume for use with a "Pixie" mute if desired and the sound without is correct. I have yet to see them anywhere else unfortunately but for sure they are available in Japan. Another plunger story concerning Clark Terry. He was in Canada and somehow his plunger came up missing. He went into a hardware store and picked up a replacement leaving the stick that comes with it behind. When checking out the clerk asked if he wanted the stick and Clark said, "Oh, I never use one" and the clerk said, "YUCK".
Clark also advised the trumpet players to play the plunger coming in more than going out.
Tony Scodwell
Scodwell USA Trumpets and Flugelhorns available in the US only from Washington Music Center, call Lee Walkowich at 301.946.8808 and in Sydney, Australia at Sax and Woodwind...and Brass and in Freiburg, Germany at Musik-Bertram. |
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