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SilentBang
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 Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:10 pm Post subject: Russian Trumpet Concertos |
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| Besides Arutunion, how many mainstream Russian trumpet concertos are out there? I've been reading a dissertation on Russian trumpet music and it's peaked my interest. |
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trumpetdiva1
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Besides the Arutiunian Trumpet Concerto, there is the Oscar Bohme Concerto for Trumpet and Orchestra, Op. 18.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp2Ft_z31fM
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mavrian22
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Not to get overly semantical, but Arutiunian wasn't Russian he was Soviet/ Armenian. A distinction I think is actually important. His music contains many elements of Armenian folk music, and I think interpreting his slow mvts (in the concerto and the Armenian Scenes for brass) with an understanding of the Armenian Genocide can give a nice interpretational basis to the music.
Other Russian/ Soviet concertos:
Vladimir peskin concerto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d_kCE_EjDY
Eino Tamberg (Estonian)
Geodicke (of Concert Etude fame, I like his concerto too).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JewJoidakTI
Mieczysław Weinberg Concerto
I know there's plenty more out there. |
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SilentBang
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| mavrian22 wrote: | Not to get overly semantical, but Arutiunian wasn't Russian he was Soviet/ Armenian. A distinction I think is actually important. His music contains many elements of Armenian folk music, and I think interpreting his slow mvts (in the concerto and the Armenian Scenes for brass) with an understanding of the Armenian Genocide can give a nice interpretational basis to the music.
Other Russian/ Soviet concertos:
Vladimir peskin concerto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d_kCE_EjDY
Eino Tamberg (Estonian)
Geodicke (of Concert Etude fame, I like his concerto too).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JewJoidakTI
Mieczysław Weinberg Concerto
I know there's plenty more out there. |
Hm I didn't know Arutunion was an Armenian composer |
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| mavrian22 wrote: | | Not to get overly semantical, but Arutiunian wasn't Russian he was Soviet/ Armenian. A distinction I think is actually important. |
I'm sure you're right about the distinction being significant. But I wonder how his work should be viewed in the Soviet context. Arts in general throughout the Soviet Union certainly were influenced by Russia. Artists from all the republics came to Russian schools for advanced education. Arutunian studied at the Moscow Conservatory, and achieved a measure of acclaim during his years in Russia. He must have mixed with both students and teachers from all across the Soviet Union. He wrote works clearly targeted at a greater than Armenian context ("Ode to Lenin" doesn't sound like Armenian patriotism, but maybe it was just a pragmatic gesture?).
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| Weinberg... A little weird, but it hadn't been mentioned yet, so I thought it would put it out there |
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martin mc hale
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| I am shortly going to be performing the Weinberg with our community orchestra here in South Wales with the principal trumpet of the orchestra of Welsh National Opera, Dean Wright. As the conductor of the orchestra I have been able over the years to persuade many of my colleagues from within WNO to step out of the orchestra pit to display their prowess and we are grateful to Dean for his willingness to give of his time. This concerto is a wonderful piece and should be more widely known and is lyrical and dramatic in equal measure. The performance is in St Andrew's and St Tielo's , Woodville Road in Cardiff on Tuesday 14th November if you happen to be in the parish.The score is, as usual , peppered with the usual Italian terms but there were a couple of odd Russian words relating to mutes. Fortunately we have a native Russian in the band and was able to translate that one instruction was to use a mute 'like a pear' obviously a straight mute , but more intriguingly a 'little mushroom mute', that we decided was a cup mute.... |
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The Pakhmutova is an excellent showpiece. I have a student who's doing great work on it now. It's not as heavy a lift as the Arutiunian, but it's got a similar character.
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| Check out Eric Aubier's Soviet trumpet concertos album. Arutunian, Vasilenko, Pakhmutova, and Nesterov (one of my favorites). The Nesterov is actually mislabeled on Spotify as Mikhail Nesterov. His first name is Arkadi. Great piece that has not been recorded very much at all besides Aubier and Dokshitzer. |
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BBB1976
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| Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:41 am Post subject: Russian trumpet concertos |
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| Yea Peskin is great and fun to learn and play! |
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