NEW Bach Commercial Trumpet Mouthpieces

groovinhigher

The NEW Bach commercial trumpet mouthpieces come in a 3, 5, 7, 10 1/2 in either a shallow cup or modified v cup.

So example 3S, 3MV, etc... they have a 27 throat and a new back bore that really dials it all in too. This series are great lead / .commercial type playing and this way if you play for example your 3C for somethings then for lead or jazz you like a shallower but want to keep the same rim diameter you can then play a 3S or 3MV.

They debuted at the NAMM show, got great reviews and should be in your local music stores soon as most made their orders at the show, or ask you local dealer to get them in soon, really turned out great and a nice addition to the Bach line. The suggested retail is $110 but most dealers will sell them for a little less. This series is great for lead, commercial type playing, great feel and sound.
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groovinhigher · Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:55 am Post subject:

Yes, we did modify the rim after a lot of play testing by multiple players as we worked on the design. A little more rounded, softer inner bite, feels great.

At the show those that did try them really liked the mouthpieces too.
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steevo · Veteran Member Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Posts: 454

Rich,

Thanks for posting. By the way, it is posts like these on Trumpet Herald where I have learned about ANYTHING new in the Bach line. The Artisan trumpets and mouthpieces, the "Mariachi" and the 190 series 37 Anniversary trumpet were talked about here a long time before anything was shown on the bachbrass.com website. The latest "news" from the news section of the site is dated a little over three years ago.

ewetho · Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:55 pm Post subject:

http://www.dillonmusic.com/p-23916-bach-commercial-trumpet-mouthpieces.aspx

Has a picture and specs

#56 Backbore and 27 Throat
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hackney_wick · Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 2:39 pm Post subject:

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mafields627 · Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:17 pm Post subject:

The thing that I am most interested in is how different the rim is from the standard pieces. I don't handle changes in contour well and was hoping it would be the same. Maybe this rim will be great and be worth getting scanned into a 3C underpart.
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cheiden · Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:07 pm Post subject:

Usedtobegood · Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:33 am Post subject:

Just ordered a 3MV from Dillon.....screaming deal at $75 with free 2 day shipping!

http://www.dillonmusic.com/p-23916-bach-commercial-trumpet-mouthpieces.aspx

cjl · Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:53 am Post subject:

Hmmmm ... a lot of mass in that mouthpiece. I thought commercial players gravitated more towards skeletonized pieces?

I always found it funny that the megatones were priced higher when they have the simplest exterior shape, that is, they should require less cutting time. But with machines doing all the work that doesn't matter, I suppose. But there would appear to me no production reason for the greater expense.

Would be interested in trying one, of course.

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Dale Proctor · Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:55 am Post subject:

The exterior looks a lot like the Conn BI-222 mouthpiece that came with my 1929 Conn 22B trumpet.
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Usedtobegood · Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:01 am Post subject:

I agree....I had to try it too and with Paypal $$ just burning a hole in my pocket...well...

Dale Proctor · Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:53 am Post subject:

adagiotrumpet · Heavyweight Member Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 903

Kenbell quote: These may have been at NAMM, but I didn't try them. I hope they modified the standard Bach rim to complement the commercial aspect of these mpcs. If they didn't, and just used the standard, uncomfortable, "bite into your lip", Bach rims, these mouthpieces will be a, pardon the pun, commercial disaster and Bach will lose hundreds of thousands of dollars in research and development money, like they did with their stupid idea of reintroducing NY style trumpets with the 7 leadpipe. No one wanted them and it was a sales disaster. They actually deserved that, because they stold the idea...and it backfired on them.[/quote]

Quick, somebody hire this guy. He clearly has a pulse on the industry without actually trying anything. I guess those of us who like and use current Bach rims as well as thought the "New York" style trumpet was a winner don't know our asses from our elbows. Ironically, had Kenbell actually tried the new commercial mouthpieces, he would not have been able to rant about them. I can't speak for Kenbell, but I have actually been to the Bach factory and seen first hand what they are doing. I applaud their efforts to preserve the past in the form of continuing to produce the "standard" models as well as look to the future with new and exciting models of instruments and mouthpieces.

On a different note how does the Bach corporation steal an idea, as Kenbell claims, for a horn based on a horn and leadpipe they originally made in the first place?

By the way, I do not work for Bach, am not endorsed by Bach, and they did not approve this message.

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rufflicks · Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:23 pm Post subject:

Rich,
Is the new commercial MV cup based on the 5MV cup from the standard line?

The Comparative Mouthpiece Guide For Trumpet by Gerald Endsley shows Bach 2-8 rims all measure an ID of .655 This leaves rim shape/contour as the reason for the perceived diametric difference. If the rims were reshaped how do the 3,5 and 7 rims differ in shape in order to retain the perceived individual size of the original rims?

Thanks for your help.

Best,

Jon
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