NEW Bach Commercial Trumpet Mouthpieces

groovinhigher · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:34 pm Post subject:

It is a new and totally unique design. I helped design it along with some folks at the Bach factory.
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groovinhigher · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:41 pm Post subject:

Here are a couple clips of me playing my Bach 7MV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-mw8b0W5ps

https://youtu.be/nZZGGGUDZm4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2_3PE8Rahw
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razeontherock · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:05 am Post subject: Re: Depth?

groovinhigher · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:25 am Post subject: Re: Depth?

falado · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 4:25 am Post subject:

Hi, I'm interested in the MP with the MV cup. I have no experience with this cup. I abandoned Bach mouthpieces years ago when I found Schilke rims to be more comfortable. Can someone tell me what this cup is like? Is it just a shallow V version of the S or is it a more, and larger/deeper, V cup? I currently play a Denis Wick 4C and have been looking at the 5MV and the 7MV, which would be closer to the 4C? I've looked at a chart, but I have found charts to be iffy. Everybody seems to have their own measuring point.

Thanks, Dave
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Grits Burgh · Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:07 pm Post subject:

Okay, a little off topic, but I just played some of the clips on You Tube with Rich Wentzel and if I thought for one moment that a new Bach commercial mouthpiece would let me play like him, I'd order a dozen tonight. ln my dreams I play O Danny Boy like Rich.
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jerseyguy · Regular Member Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 39

I was at Dillon this weekend to try out their Flugel and also try some different mouthpieces for the drum corps I'm doing (G bugle), and they had a 7S, but that was it - that's the only one Bach has sent them (I believe elsewhere in the thread someone said they were going to ship to dealers in March).

I currently play a Curry 3B or Schile 14a4, but played around with the 7S. It was a lot lighter than I thought it would be.. I'm not an experienced player so I havent tried all different types of MPCs, but I thought based on the shape and pictures it would be heavier, but it felt lighter than the Curry 3C I was also trying.

I also expected it to feel a lot smaller than the Schilke 14a4, but it felt almost the same size. The rim was very comfortable (with a slighly bent forward tooth, a lot of rims hurt - but the Curry 3 rims and the Schilke "4" rims I find very comfortable, and the Bach 7S was just as comfortable!)

Two interesting things - notes slotted much better for me on the Bach - in another thread I posted about how E above high C is a trouble note for me, alwyas under or overshooting, and even when holding it it pops up or down, but on the Bach it wasnt - first time on any horn or any mpc where i could just hit it dead center repeatedly. However - i really couldn't play anything below low B - just couldn't get a sound to come out.. I guess maybe a little too shallow or small (even though it didn't feel it)? Doing a chromatic from low C down just stopped after B.. sometimes the Bb came but that was it.

cheiden · Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:05 pm Post subject:

rap · Regular Member Joined: 24 Nov 2001 Posts: 53 Location: UK

Thanks for sharing your experience.
Did the 7S feel very shallow? Was it similar to the 14a4 or shallower? How was the sound? Did you feel you could vary the tonal colors?

I’m looking for an all round commercial piece and am drawn to the 10.5MV as the specs suggest it is a similar inner diameter to pieces I use but the advertising and videos suggest they may be specialized lead pieces and perhaps not what I’m looking for.

markp · Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:59 pm Post subject:

The two-week waiting period for mine to be shipped from Mouthpiece Express is creeping up on five weeks now. Wonder if I'd have had better luck ordering from some other vendor.

gregplo · Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 1:38 pm Post subject:

EBjazz · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 11:06 am Post subject:

So has anyone played the 3MV? Just wondering how the depth compares to a 3C.

Eb
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Usedtobegood · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:58 am Post subject:

Got an email from Dillon Music my 3MV is on the way!! Hope to have it Tuesday or Wednesday. Will post my feedback after I have a chance to play it!!

trptmindfk · Regular Member Joined: 05 Mar 2010 Posts: 70

Rich, About to receive a 3MV tomorrow. Yay! Do you know if anyone has tried these with drilled out throats? I ask because many players seem to prefer a 25 or 24 instead of the stock 27. I know most principal players using Bach mp on their C trumpets go to a 24 or 23 drill, not sure how this works on the Bb.

markp · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:18 am Post subject:

Dale Proctor · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:26 am Post subject:

I'd guess the new 3MV isn't a mouthpiece you'd want to use on a C trumpet for classical music. Haven't tried, one, though, so that's just a wild guess based on its description as a commercial mouthpiece. Same goes for a large throat on a commercial piece for "commercial" Bb playing.
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Usedtobegood · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:47 am Post subject:

derekthor · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:28 am Post subject:

trumphat · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:32 am Post subject:

Just got my 7MV and 7S. Played thru the lead book of Basie Straight Ahead, along with the cd, on the 7S. I usually use a Yamaha 7A4 for lead work, however the 7S felt very much the same on my chops, but the results were a brighter, more cutting tone. Intonation and slotting were very good. Overall I'd say it was a better fit for me when doing this kind of work. I like the 7MV too, however for jazz playing I use a NY Bach 7BW and a Reeves 41 C2J, so I'm not sure what situation I'll use it for. Time will tell. Overall I think these are great additions to the trumpet players arsenal of tools. Bach did a great job designing these and the name "Commercial" is right on.