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Larry Smithee Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:21 am Post subject: Jonah Jones |
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When I was in high school (late 1050s and early 1960s) I fell in love with Jonah Jones' playing. I had a bunch of his quartet recordings during that time. I wasn't hip enough to dig the more complex players of the day but Jonah's playing came through just fine. His tunes were easy to understand and his improv was basic and also easy to follow. He knew how to swing. I particularly loved his lip trills. They were beautiful. I loved his mute concept too and I bought some of the same mute toys he used. One of my favorite albums (as in old LP) was the one featuring the Jonah combined with the Glenn Gray Orchestra (it's actually a studio orchestra). Note the personnel:
Trumpets – Al Porcino, Conrad Gozzo, Joe Graves, Manny Klein, Shorty Sherock, Uan Rasey
The best of the best of the era. What a bunch of kick-ass monster players these guys were. Listen below if you don't believe me. There was some switching out between Al Porcino and Uan Rasey but don't know which tunes. This certainly doesn't have the sophistication of a Woody Shaw kind of player but I still dig it for what it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRgpVp8LBIw |
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falado Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Yes, need more of that! _________________ FA LA DO (Ab: V/ii) MUCS, USN (Ret.)
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homecookin Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:37 am Post subject: |
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I agree with you about Jonah Jones.
I discovered Jonah Jones In my dad's record collection back in the sixties.
There is a clip on YouTube with Jonah Jones and Fred Astaire that is pretty cool.
Jonah Jones, in my opinion, was kind of a combination of the styles of Louis Armstrong and Roy Eldridge. |
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BeboppinFool Donald Reinhardt Forum Moderator
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for posting that, Larry . . . I just listened to the whole thing. Absolutely great quality stuff! I sure missed out on listening to that kind of thing when growing up. It would have given me a better point of reference for a lot of the gigs I've had to do (and didn't have a clue).
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Larry Smithee Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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BeboppinFool wrote: | Thanks for posting that, Larry . . . |
You're welcome, Rich. I've listened to this a couple of times now and I could be wrong, but the arrangements really have a Billy May vib to me. Whoever the arranger might have been he clearly wrote those charts with these guys in mind. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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I first heard Jonah on a sampler LP (remember them?) with "Surrey with the Fringe on Top"; enjoyed it so bought "Swinging on Broadway" (For the music, I think, but the cover, as I remember it, was a worthy second choice for buying it, LOL.)
He didn't grab me like he did you, but I enjoyed listening to him. At the time, I was listening more to Fats Navarro, Miles, Diz and - oh yes - Louis Prima. Very accessible player. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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giakara Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for posting , great stuff , for me he was very underated player , check him with Calloway small combo nail double Gs and with his Olds super.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xp6er_nq70
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homecookin Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:28 am Post subject: |
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giakara wrote: | Thanks for posting , great stuff , for me he was very underated player , check him with Calloway small combo nail double Gs and with his Olds super.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xp6er_nq70
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Jonah Jones played in Cab Calloway's trumpet section along with Dizzy Gillespie.
In fact, legend has it that Jonah Jones hit Cab Calloway in the head with a
spitball and Cab blamed Dizzy for it and Dizzy got fired.
Jonah Jones had great chops but you are correct, he was not as well known as Louis,
Dizzy, Miles and others. |
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Mac Gollehon Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:37 am Post subject: |
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i remember going to see him several times in 1979 or 1980 when he had a long run at Sheraton on west 53rd and 8th ave. he was swingin hard and with impeccable taste,great player great man. He also told me that when his album Muted Jazz came out he was doing a several year run at Embers and had to do almost the entire gig in various mutes as that is what the crowd was paying to hear. He came to many of my Mac,s Smokin Section gigs at the Blue Note in mid 90s and I invited him to sit in but he was no longer playing. He lived a few blocks away on Washington SQ Park. |
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Good stuff! Thanks for posting that link. |
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Grits Burgh Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Added this to my to-do list: master Jonas Jones' lip trill. Good stuff. _________________ Bach Stradivarius 37 (1971)
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trumpetgeekIII Veteran Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for posting Mr. Smithee. It's been a while Sir! I hope you are doing well... _________________ BACH STRAD '72
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Larry Smithee Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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trumpetgeekIII wrote: | Thanks for posting Mr. Smithee. It's been a while Sir! I hope you are doing well... |
Doing fine trumpetgeekIII, doing fine. Hope you're doing well also. Thanks for asking. |
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DNMH Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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homecookin wrote: | giakara wrote: | Thanks for posting , great stuff , for me he was very underated player , check him with Calloway small combo nail double Gs and with his Olds super.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xp6er_nq70
Regards |
Jonah Jones played in Cab Calloway's trumpet section along with Dizzy Gillespie.
In fact, legend has it that Jonah Jones hit Cab Calloway in the head with a
spitball and Cab blamed Dizzy for it and Dizzy got fired.
Jonah Jones had great chops but you are correct, he was not as well known as Louis,
Dizzy, Miles and others. |
Just coming in on this. I had an Olds Super and sure didn't sound like Jonah. Did he use other horns and what mouthpiece did he use? |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Louis II? Jonah had his run. got a Capitol record deal and some great, steady club work. This is just conjecture, but if he was later not a household word, I think that it was the times. He really didn't keep up with the Lee Morgans during a time when evolution in the arts was expected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2VynrlmPeQ _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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spitvalve Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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I found "Muted Jazz" in my local public library when I was fourteen or fifteen and I listened to it non-stop for the two weeks that I checked it out, trying to learn the tunes and copy his licks. He was a monster player, but what he played was accessible for a trumpet-obsessed teenaged kid who was just discovering jazz. In spite of only hearing one album of his, I can count him as one of my influences. _________________ Bryan Fields
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peanuts56 Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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I had a booklet from the NY Brass Conference someone gave me years ago. There was a long interview with Jonah in it. Very interesting, he was about 82 at the time and still playing very well. He was actually taking lessons at the time from Jimmy Maxwell looking to improve his chops.
There was also an extensive interview with Uan Rasey.
I actually tossed the booklet out a couple of days ago after not looking at it for maybe 15-20 years. |
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GeorgeB Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Oh, I remember Jonah. Sure he was great but in those days there were so many greats. I remember trying to find a music shop that carried his LP albums and they weren't available in my corner of the world. No you tube or Amazon in those days either.
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plankowner110 Heavyweight Member
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