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johntpt 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 07 Feb 2002 Posts: 2284 Location: Toluca, Mexico
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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For those of you with experience with Schilke Ebs...
I understand that the Schilke Eb cornet shares the same leadpipe with the P5-4 piccolo trumpet. Does anyone use any of the aftermarket leadpipes (Osmun, Najoom, etc) available for the P5-4 on the Eb cornet?
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trumpetmike Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Posts: 11315 Location: Ash (an even smaller place ), UK
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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That may be the way to solve my disliking of the Schilke...
All I want is an instrument that sounds fantastic and plays well in tune. The Schilke has a nice sound, the Besson Sovereign has a great sound, the Getzen sound is very good - only the Blackburn so far has the combination - if only I had the finances! |
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GordonH Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2893 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Having been around brass bands for 26 years I have seen a lot of soprano designs come and go.
One of the best was the old Imperial.
For some reason B + H kept redesigning their Sovereign model and making it worse each time.
if theyu would just resurrect the Imperial design (they made other models based on the same design) they could make a decent one at a decent price.
I know a guy who has one and a Yamaha.
He sounds much better on the scabby old Imperial.
Its not nearly as shrill a sound.
Thats my opinion and I am sticking to it!
Gordon _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
Pic - Weril
Flugel - Courtois 154
Cornet - Geneva Heritage, Conn 28A
Mouthpieces - Monette 1-5 rims and similar.
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trumpetmike Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Posts: 11315 Location: Ash (an even smaller place ), UK
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'd forgotten about the Imp sop - that was the first sop I ever played. This might explain why I like the higher pitch instruments!
I suppose this is one more instrument to add to the wish list, probably behind the Blackburn, but it will go on the list! |
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Capt. Z Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2003 Posts: 230 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Great to hear the praise about the old Imperial. I recently got an old '48 Imperial and was not sure if it would be wise to invest some money in getting it to the shop to remove the 3 major dent it has on the sheapard's crook.
Unfortunatelly, I never had the chance in comparing the Imperial to another soprano. So I only can go by your impressions and experiences with the Imperial. _________________ '83 B&H Sovereign Cornet, MB w/Sparx 4; 4B
'78 Bach Strad. 65* w/GR 65S;MS;M;MX
'87 Getzen Eterna 900 LB in C w/GR 65S;MS;M;MX
'02 Benge Piccolo Trumpet Blackburn pipe w/Haefner 7H*P
I mainly play British Brass and Classical Music |
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samlg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Posts: 905 Location: hampshire, England
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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"I'd forgotten about the Imp sop - that was the first sop I ever played."
thats funny, it was the first sop i played as well. i have a yamie at the moment (not that it sees the light of day much!) the imp is much better nicer sound. the valves on the yamie are crap there so tight if you use a thick oil on them they stick! they soon loosend up when i got the brasso out!!!!! .
ive just discovered why my imperial flugel is so out of tune, its converted from high pitch. its not helped that the third slide is a quartertone flat, d is perfect but Ab is a bugger!
have fun, sam |
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Capt. Z Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2003 Posts: 230 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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My wife has an old Imperial Fluegelhorn too. The low C is way out of tune. Needs all the lipping up it can get to get anywhere near close. _________________ '83 B&H Sovereign Cornet, MB w/Sparx 4; 4B
'78 Bach Strad. 65* w/GR 65S;MS;M;MX
'87 Getzen Eterna 900 LB in C w/GR 65S;MS;M;MX
'02 Benge Piccolo Trumpet Blackburn pipe w/Haefner 7H*P
I mainly play British Brass and Classical Music |
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