Warburton trumpets...titanium bell, anyone?

dstpt · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1284

Has anyone on TH play tested the Warburton trumpets that would like to share personal feedback? I will be going to their shop in less than two weeks to try them. Particularly interested in feedback on the titanium bell and extended venturi leadpipe. Haven't heard any feedback on a play test with that configuration. This will mainly be for use doing musical theater, wanting a horn that lights up easily.

wiemelen · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:22 am Post subject:

Interesting! Didn't even know they make trumpets.
Thought they only make mouthpieces.
After hearing some clips, they seem to be pretty nice trumpets.
Also the titanium bell principle is pretty unique I guess.
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delano · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:08 am Post subject:

I would like to try the Vaxinator model

ML52K · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:19 pm Post subject:

I was at the Warburton shop last October, almost an whole year ago.

I was on vacation and asked my wife if she would mind if we stopped to just check the shop out and maybe meet Terry.

We got to the shop and met Ken. Ken introduced me to all the mouthpieces and the shop had 3 or 4 hours all put together. So off I went trying horns.

I honestly have to say I don't remember what models I tried, because I wasn't in the market. But I took 3 into their conference room and started blowing.

Overall impressions were that they were all well constructed. Terry has great talent for putting these together. One was heavier, I don't remember the particular model designation. It sounded great, but a bit harder to light up. A "regular" weight bell reminded me of my 1970 Bach. Then I tried a "lightweight" bell. I believe it was gold brass, not titanium. I believe Ken said titanium bell availability was limited.

Of all the horns I tried, the lightweight bell model felt and sounded the best. It was light in the hands, lit up really well, and had great core and tuning. I fell in love right away, and if I was in the market, would have bought one immediately. When I came out of the conference room, Ken said he liked me best on that model.

I believe you will be very impressed. And, knowing you're going will allow you to get there prepared: take a notebook and take notes. I walked away asking myself what one did I just play. Ken is an invaluable resource and he will help you in any manner you need.

The last part of the visit was with Terry. Wow. I was hoping to just shake hands with the guy, but he pulled me right into the shop and production area. He is a wonderful, energetic, brilliant guy, and he spent 15-30 minutes in engaging conversation about his life, business, horns, mouthpieces, production and motorcycle. I can't say if you will get the same opportunity, but I found my visit entirely successful. I was guilty I wasn't there to buy anything, so I asked for a cap and a T shirt. I think Terry was ready to send me out the door gratis, but I was delighted to pony up.

Have fun and good luck!

hose · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:59 am Post subject:

I bought one of the first Warburton trumpets in June of 2015. I lived close enough to Mims at the time to go there often and Terry let me take several to ensembles at different times over a month. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't have been able to choose one. KT is invaluable with his ears and suggestions. There were about 10 different choices of combos. That doesn't include the different tuning slide shapes and bracings.

I bought model 435. The #4 is the "Extended Venturi", the tightest of the four lead pipes, but it felt large to me. The #5 is a light wt, 5 inch gold brass bell.

By all means take a note book. I didn't and it was very confusing. Too many choices. Terry is very accommodating with ring placement, finger buttons and other cosmetic features. He really wants you to like his horns.
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chuck in ny · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:26 pm Post subject:

i would be keenly interested in your observations of the characteristics of a titanium bell. this is a strange area. plastic, carbon fiber, brass, copper, steel, a lot of things have been successfully used for bells. it's hard to conceptualize if a different material is going to be 'the ticket'- at least, it's hard for me. i'd like to hear about it.

david mickley · Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:03 pm Post subject:

I would imagine the titanium bell would be pretty expensive, the metal is hard to work with at least the machining. Had to thread over 50 hooks for use in heat treat that were made out of titanium and they were a bear, can't imagine making trumpet bells with that material.
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wiemelen · Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:10 am Post subject:

madAhorn · Regular Member Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 12

I met with Mike Vax and several trumpeters from the Phoenix area today at The Nash. Thanks folks at the Nash for letting us hang there!

I fell in love with his Mike Vax 3 mouthpiece...I chose the H backbore...
Mike uses this cup for cornet, but it quite shallow enough to play lead and I loved it!

I also played the Vaxinator trumpet. I could play more comfortably down low and high then with my current horn and it had some warmth to it. Ordered it too!

James Becker · Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:31 am Post subject:

delano · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:35 am Post subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqYAtFm2LDk

davidkoch · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:55 am Post subject:

dstpt · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1284

Actually, I have received info via a Warburton rep, and they claim that it's titanium.

Blancolate · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:32 am Post subject:

ITS JUST GREAT THAT THEY FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE BELLS OUT OF A NEW MATERIAL. WHEN MY PERSONAL TRUMPET TEACHER DID EXPERIMENTS ON DIFFERENT MATERIALS WITH SHILKE DECADES AGO THEY WERE MOST IMPRESSED WITH "LEAD" WHEN THEY HEARD THE RECORDINGS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT BELLS. YET THEY COULD NOT FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE LEAD BELLS ON ANY REGULAR BASIS. SO THERE CAN BE SOMETHIUNG BETTER OUT THERE, ITS JUST A MATTER OF PRODUCING IT ON A REGULAR AND CONSISTANT BASIS.

dstpt · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1284

There are videos on YouTube of various manufacturers using the technique of "spun" bell...

dstpt · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1284

Sorry. Messed up on the quote:...

LittleRusty · Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:10 pm Post subject:

dstpt · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1284

Ed Kennedy · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 3187

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AusTNMMe0hI

Bell Spinning at 7:30

dstpt · Heavyweight Member Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 1284