Cup mute for flugelhorns

Stefan · Regular Member Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 14

In our brass band the cornet and trombone section use the adjustable Dennis Wick cup mute. There is no specific flugelhorn mute of the same kind from Dennis Wick. What do you use for your flugelhorn in order to acheive a similar sound. The trombone version or a mute from a different brand?

Thanks

L J · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:28 am Post subject:

Use a Peter Gane flugelhorn cup mute.

Stefan · Regular Member Joined: 25 Feb 2006 Posts: 14

L J · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:14 am Post subject:

Yes, the Wick doesn't sound that metallic.
You don't have to match other flugels in a brass band, maybe the altos, but that's not a significant problem or sound difference with a Gane cup.

zaferis · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 5:37 am Post subject:

my snarky question is "Why?"..

but then if you must, get a Stone Lined cup and make sure it fits the instrument properly - like with trumpet, you may have to file the corks down.

https://www.amazon.com/Humes-Berg-Stonelined-Flugelhorn-186/dp/B0007XX28M
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L J · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:30 am Post subject:

zaferis · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:48 am Post subject:

I know. It's just a very rare thing. IMO on the fringes of "common" use.

I've been performing as a "pro" since 1980, musicals, concert/brass bands, orchestras, quartet/quintets, in the US, Japan and Europe. I don't ever recall seeing a Flugel part asking for cup mute let alone ever seeing one in person.

I saw a straight mute requirement for Flugel, for which we used a small trombone mute.

And lastly, such a rare/specific item, I'd be pressuring the ensemble to porvide one if desired. I don't wish to spend $50 - $100 for something I'll use for a very short time.
Hey, I'm a trumpet player - "snarky" is my middle name!
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L J · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:11 pm Post subject:

ketch22 · Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 2:15 pm Post subject:

A trombone mute just didn't work on my Benge 3 flugel - the intonation was awful. I have a Trumcor straight mute that I tried to turn into a cup mute by cutting the end off a heavy cardboard cone at a point that it would slip (slide) over the straight section of the mute. It actually worked very well. The tone was quite usable, and with good intonation. The cardboard cone cost only $9 (cdn) and works well enough for the one piece a season I need it for our brass band.

I was motivated by the Canadian Amazon price of a Humes & Berg that is listed for $135! And what about this aluminum straight mute?
http://www.amazon.ca/Humes-Berg-Stonelined-Flugelhorn-285A/dp/B007H4IVTY/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1475445781&sr=8-3-fkmr1&keywords=flugelhorn+cup+mute

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iiipopes · Heavyweight Member Joined: 29 Jun 2015 Posts: 550

I have a standard H&B stonelined cup mute to match my trumpet cup mute. I need to file the corks a little bit because the cup is a little bit too far from the bell rim, but it does the job in the traditional manner.

Part number 186. Link:

http://www.humesandberg.com/product_listing.php?category_id=1&scid=13
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