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KevinInGeorgia Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 May 2002 Posts: 738 Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:19 am Post subject: |
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I’m still looking for a way to solve my mouthpiece problems..
Seems like I may have the same problem as the Over Sized Mouthpiece Receiver on the Olds. Luckily I’m not the only one to see the problem, asemaster ( Bill) saw the same thing I did.. A cornet Mouthpiece is too Small.. a Trumpet mouthpieces fits but is WAY out of tune, so the flugel seems the best bet.. I guess I may try to find a small flugel Mouthpiece that will be in tune. I have to say Getzen Corp. has been very accommodating & they are trying to solve the problem..
Here is a Link to the Pics of it from Ebay..
The mouthpice thay had in it was a Bach 7C cornet that they had taped up ..
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/moneyman1025/EternGetzCoronet.jpg?allow_track_link=1&track=022535d134-52693&sp=1
To who ever said they love the sound of the Getzen Eb they are RIGHT.. It has a MUCH bigger sound then the Yamahas I’ve played.. The bigger bell really make a difference..
I may if I can find the time & the money take the lil cornet to Cliff & have him make me a Custom Blackburn pipe.. That is the nice thing about being less than 4 hours away from the Blackburn Shop..
On a Side note one of my band mates just picked up a Yamaha ycr261 Eb Sop & was asking me what a good mouthpiece for that particular horn.. He is primarily a Trumpeter but also plays a lot of Cornet with his Olds Ambassador.. I think he plays around a Bach 3c..
Thanks for any recommendations?
Kevin
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Kevin Myers
Alpharetta, GA
georgia_trumpeter@yahoo.com
[ This Message was edited by: KevinInGeorgia on 2003-11-12 10:27 ] |
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pair of kings Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jan 2002 Posts: 1013 Location: York, PA
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Interesting - that horn tunes at the leadpipe. I hadn't realized that.
Come on Kevin - you got such a deal on that horn, go ahead and have Blackburn make you a new receiver!! I bet you wouldn't regret it! |
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OldKid Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Posts: 135
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Just exactly what mp is this horn designed to work with? _________________ Bach 181 Strad Cornet B1.5B
YAMAHA Xeno 16C4 GP
Getzen 3850 Cornet YAM 16E
King (early 50's) Super 20 B1.5C
Pocket Max B1.5C
Arban's |
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trombapaul2 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Oct 2002 Posts: 1889 Location: Detroit, MI
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Hey there,
Curry offers any of their cornet mouthpieces also made to fit the
53' (and earlier) Olds receivers. I just received a Curry 4S-3DC
and it fits my Olds beautifully. Cost me all of $68.00 (normal list
price + $15.00 for the Olds shank) including shipping. I bet that's
alot cheaper than having Cliff make a pipe for the horn, assuming
of course the I.D. of the Getzen receiver is the same as the Olds.
Paul _________________ "NEVER practice...ALWAYS perform" (Bud)
"NEVER look at the trombones...it only encourages them" (R. Strauss)
"What the hell does sound have to do with music?" (Charles Ives) |
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KevinInGeorgia Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 May 2002 Posts: 738 Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:42 am Post subject: |
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I'm trying to get a definitive answer from Getzen..
It's a GREAT soprano because it's a .460 Bore, but the Getzen rep I've been talking to hasn't had much luck finding a Getzen Tech that was there when it was made & has any knowledge of it..
I'll take some more pics when I get a chance & get it all cleaned up..
It was in GREAT shape.. a few small scratches & a stuck amato water key, other than that: WOW a great horn.. I need to give it a good long bath to make sure I got everything cleaned out of it..
It plays VERY free & open .. Projects well.. I used it a few times with the Cornet Band lat night I could easily play over: 2 Bb cornets,3 Alto Horns, Flugel & 2 tubas.. Just don't tell them I said that..
I was making a list of all the horns I have..
Guess it's time to take Pics of all of them & put them on a website..
Riffdawg (Joel) calls me a Walking Brass Band.. He is right..
Right now I've got:
2 Bb Trumpets
1 C Trumpet
1 Eb/d Trumpet
1 Short Bell Picc Trumpet
1 Eb Cornet
2 Bb Cornets
2 Flugelhorns
2 Alto Horns
1 Euphonium
HI.. MY NAME IS KEVIN & I HAVE AN ADDICTION. EBAY is not my friend
They say admitting you have a problem is the part of the solution.. lol
Of course.. I've got a new solution to my EBAY Problem.. People ask me to Bid on EBAY horns for them.. They send the check/money order when I win them a horn.. It's great to spend other people's money..
Kevin
[ This Message was edited by: KevinInGeorgia on 2003-11-12 11:44 ] |
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riffdawg2000 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 May 2003 Posts: 1153 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:06 am Post subject: |
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< bowing head and shaking it ......... >
He forgot to mention he is an ametuer repair-guy to......He's a good friend .. but he ain't bring that blowtorch anywhere near my horns .... sorry Kev ... _________________ Joel Thomas |
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nieuwguyski Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 2346 Location: Santa Cruz County, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Kevin,
I have that same model Getzen soprano cornet and my leadpipe, which takes a standard cornet mouthpiece, doesn't look like yours. Mine has two pulls on either side of the chunky hexagon at the very end of the receiver. I have discovered that the Eb cornet pipe and Getzen Eterna piccolo pipe have the same OD, so they can be swapped around (resulting in picc in B and cornet in D...). It makes me wonder if the Getzen Eterna flugelhorn leadpipe has the same OD, and if one has somehow ended up in your cornet. _________________ J. Notso Nieuwguyski |
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Downunder Veteran Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 108 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Kevin,
I've got a Getzen soprano I'm selling on behalf of a band here which is the same as yours (except it is silver plated and has a trigger on the 1st slide instead of the saddle).
The leadpipe takes a normal cornet mouthpiece without any problems.
Stephen Williams _________________ "Where words fail, music speaks" - Hans Christian Anderson |
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KevinInGeorgia Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 May 2002 Posts: 738 Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:23 am Post subject: |
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I have a Getzen Picc & Getzen Flugel so I can check those pipes..
I’ve already tried the Flugel Pipe & unless it was cut down it is too long to fit..
I do not have the original Getzen Bb pipe but I will find my Getzen A pipe & see if it fits & if it looks the same..
nieuwguyski: If at all possible can you send a pic of your Leadpipe..
Everyone: THANK you for all the Help.. I think we're getting closer to the solution.
Kevin |
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GordonH Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2893 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Thats definitley a Getzen Pic Bb pipe.
Its the wrong one.
Get the correct leadpipe and the instrument will also sound better.
Gordon _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
Pic - Weril
Flugel - Courtois 154
Cornet - Geneva Heritage, Conn 28A
Mouthpieces - Monette 1-5 rims and similar.
Licensed Radio Amateur - GM4SVM |
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trumpetmike Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Posts: 11315 Location: Ash (an even smaller place ), UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Definitely sounds like a case of someone having experimented before you purchased the sop - I have a Getzen sop and it takes a cornet shank perfectly.
If you are that close to Blackburn, see what they can do in the way of a soprano leadpipe. If the one from their new sop fits the Getzen I would be very interested. If it has even the slightest playing characteristics of their own soprano I may have to invest in one.
Edited for terrible spelling!
[ This Message was edited by: trumpetmike on 2003-11-13 16:37 ] |
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KevinInGeorgia Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 May 2002 Posts: 738 Location: Lawrenceville, GA
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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Well I love Blackburn pipes.. I have them on almost all of my Horns..
SO ... I will have to talk to Tina or Cliff & see if the pipe will fit my Blackburn.
Just another Excuse for a trip to the Blackburn Shop.
Kevin |
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asemaster Veteran Member
Joined: 19 Jul 2003 Posts: 134 Location: Alpharetta,Ga.
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Kevin, remind me Monday night to bring my flugel mouthpiece on to rehearsal on Tuesday. _________________ Bill
Atlanta Swing Orchestra
Alpha Brass
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