Jupiter XO

trumpetlane · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:37 am Post subject: Jupiter XO

Hello. I'm looking at getting a new horn. I am interested in a good all around player that works in a variety of settings and blends well with others. I have been trying out Yamaha Xenos, Bach 37's and the Jupiter XO 1602s. I like the sound of a good Bach but I don't really like the new ones (plus they are over priced) and they are so inconsistent. I like how the Yamaha Xeno's play, but don't like the sound as much and they are also a bit pricey. Honestly, I have been impressed with the new Jupiter XO 1602s. It seems to have a nice blow, good intonation, and a decent sound color. They also seem to be consistent in how the are made and sound. The XO's may be the most bang for the buck as well (obviously they don't compare to custom horns). Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Greg
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Proteus · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:04 am Post subject:

Hi Greg...

I've never tried the 1602, but just this morning got delivery of an XO 1624 C trumpet that I got off an Ebay seller by the name of "QuinnTheEskimo". He's got good horns at really decent prices, and you might want to check them out (full disclosure: no affiliation).

Will let you know my impression of the XO 1624 later, as I didn't even have time to get it out of the box this morning.

And here are a couple of YouTube comparisons between the Yamaha Xeno and Jupiter XO Bb trumpets that you might want to listen to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qd7Tg_KKw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPtNWy43g_0

Cheers!

trumpetlane · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:48 am Post subject: Jupiter XO

That's funny.... I just ordered the same trumpet from QuinntheEskimo as well! Killer price! Mine is arriving on Thursday. Let's compare notes.

Yes, I watched those videos as well. I was impressed!

Thanks
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dstdenis · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:59 am Post subject:

I play-tested an XO Brass 1602s when I was shopping last year, and I thought it was a really nice trumpet. I chose a new Xeno and I've been very happy with it, but I think I would've been happy with the 1602s also.
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Andy Del · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:31 pm Post subject:

While the Jupiters are ver nice horns, play well and a;l that, you are going to find that they have a VERY brought sound compared to a bog standard Bach, which was your issues ensemble playing. A Bach 72 wold be a much better bet to blend in your situations... sorry!

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LittleRusty · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: Jupiter XO

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cheiden · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:14 pm Post subject:

If you like a Bach but not the price you might consider looking for a used one. Another new horn to consider that could save you some cash is the B&S. I scored their 37 equivalent for my son it's a pretty good horn. We got it used for somewhere around $1K as I recall.
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Fredrik · Regular Member Joined: 25 Aug 2012 Posts: 40

Hi Greg,

I haven't played the XO1602s but I play the XO1600i and I also own a nice Bach 37. I personally prefer the XO. I know they are different kind of horns but the intonation, sound and feel of the XO just fits me better.

I'm not sure, but I think the bell of the 1600i and the Bach 37 is pretty similar and even though the 1600i has a smaller bore it blows more open and even through the register.

If you like the XO, I'd say go for it.

Take care

/F

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jojocat · Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:27 am Post subject:

A couple years ago, I played a silver 1602 for over a year as my main horn and I've been very pleased with it. I sold it to buy a Courtois EVO IV and I still regret that move. Jupiter make outstanding horns. Their piccolo trumpet is one of the best professional choice.

I would recommend you to trust your own feelings and experiences with the horns as you had the opportunity to try and compare a couple of horns. Many people here don't have the chance to do that.

I recently bought a baroque trumpet at a very cheap price. OK it's not an Egger, but for a beginner, it's not bad at all.

I did the same thing you did, I mean posting ang and asking the opinion of TH members. Although every guy who posts do it for helping, one guy - here! - didn't take into consideration the budget thing and strongly recommended me to forget this horn and save money ( for months, maybe for years ) to buy a big name baroque horn.

Finally I didn't take into account his opinion and bought the horn for about $300. At the end of the day, I have a decent baroque trumpet in hands who satisfies me rather than dreaming to get one in many many months. Thanks to my feeling!
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Paul in GA · Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:56 pm Post subject: XO 1602SR

I own both the XO 1602SR and the XO1600i. When I started back up earlier this year, after about thirty year layoff. I found my trusty Benge 5 was no longer the trumpet for me. I tried a lot of horns, Yamaha Xeno, Bach 37, 43 and anniversary models, Carol brass, SE Shires, Edwards....really anything I could get my hands on. I kept coming back to XO 1602SR.

I found a demo horn in Kentucky. Immediately fell in love with it. The price was right and it was brand new. So new, that I suspect it was a pre-production display case horn. After a couple of weeks, I had major sticking issues with all three valves. KHS/Jupiter paid for the repairs (minor lapping of the valves). After trying multiple configurations, I am back to the standard weight valve caps and D shaped tuning crook.

But here is the thing, while the horn was being repaired, I bought a demo 1600i from Quinn the Eskimo. That is now my main trumpet! Go figure.

The 1602S is a fantastic horn. You can't really go wrong.

zaferis · Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:38 pm Post subject:

I just picked up an XO Flugel from Quinn the Eskimo at an excellent price. I know it's not the trumpet you're asking about but my take on the Flugel might be pertinent.

The sound is wonderful, intonation pretty good, and the valves are quite nice. My only concern is the machining and plating; though it looks great right now the feel of the valve caps (the way the threading feels when removing the valves) gives me pause. This is where I feel the "cheapness" (for lack of words). Definitely doesn't feel like a top notch instrument (Bach, Schilke, Yamaha, or customs). I wonder how this will age.

For now I'm happy with my purchase. And for the $$, well worth it.
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Nicobrown · Regular Member Joined: 26 Oct 2012 Posts: 25

I get up this post about XO trumpet because I have some doubts about it.
I felt immediately in love with this broad sound and I have been playing an XO 1602s for almost one year now. However , I couldn't find the right mouthpiece combination yet.
With the square tuning slide, it feels very tight , especially in the upper register. Too closed for me. With the rounded one, the trumpet is really really more open. Upper register free blowing but in general , maybe too much for me. I can't slotting cleanly etc ...
Ideally, I would like something between.
Any XO player around there to share experiences and advices ?
For now , I have tried the XO with a 5C , 3C and 1.5C.
I came from an old Bach 72* with a stock Bach 5C mouthpiece.

LittleRusty · Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:11 am Post subject:

Pete · Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:13 am Post subject:

I play the 1600I XO Ingram model along with my 8310Z. I know that both of these horns are different than yours. I basically use the same Warburton top but use different backbores for the two horns. I use the square tuning slide. I did a valve alignment on the XO when I first got it. I did it myself. You may want to check that too.

Pete

Type3B · Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:36 pm Post subject:

I have an XO 1602LTR. Killer! Can't say anything negative about it.
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Type3B · Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:22 pm Post subject:

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PW-Factor · Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:14 pm Post subject:

I'm way late too but I'll submit my 2 cents from experience.

I tried the 1602, 1604, and 1600i, and ended up with the 1600 i for 2 reasons:
1. It had the same .453 bore as my Martin Handcraft Imperial (I logic'd myself into this one)
2. It had a lot more core to the sound, so I thought it'd be a good alternative for musicals / classical where the Martin didn't fit.

I have to say, the only thing long term I didn't love was that the smaller bore didn't work for me in most of the settings I was using it in. While the small bore and large mouthpiece of my Martin / Heim combination was super comfortable for small group jazz, it didn't cut like I needed for a larger/louder group. I ended up finding out over time that I prefer smaller mouthpiece / larger horn for those gigs. Everything about the quality and fit/finish of the XO horn was, in my experience, on par with Yamaha or Bach.

My horn came with the tweed/leather hard case, and the case latches broke on mine. But I know a lot of the XO horns came in the backpack case, so YMMV.

Honestly, I'm looking at a Jupiter XO flugelhorn and/or C Trumpet because while the blow of the XO 1600i I purchased ended up not being my ideal fit, I found the quality and price/performance of the horn to be top notch. I paid nearly retail and my only disappointment is that I have moved on from it.
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