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What brands carry a short shank trumpet mouthpiece?
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I own a Curry 50TC which has a shorter shank than my Bach mps.
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As stock options? Pickett has 2 short shank options (OS and CS backbores) available as 1 piece or as backbore only.
Curry TC and TF are short shank, but others can be ordered.
Some of the Stork Studio Master models are short shank.
Monette.
Osmun can short shank any piece you want.
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Flip Oakes TCC is a great mouthpiece. Cornet cup with an 18 bore.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:21 am Post subject: Thanks for the information |
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Thanks everyone for the information on short shank trumpet mouthpieces.
Does Yamaha or Bach have short shank trumpet mouthpiece.Haven't played a trumpet in two years. Like the short shank mouthpieces on my cornet.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Thanks for the information |
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| jondrowjf@gmail.com wrote: | Thanks everyone for the information on short shank trumpet mouthpieces.
Does Yamaha or Bach have short shank trumpet mouthpiece.Haven't played a trumpet in two years. Like the short shank mouthpieces on my cornet. |
Trumpet mouthpieces aren't the same. The overall length is mostly the same except where the length is changed to compensate for other factors to bring it into tune.
So I think you're chasing something you don't need to chase.
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We've been altering conventional mouthpiece by Bach, Schilke, Yamaha and others to key specific "short shank" lengths for trumpets in Bb, C, D, Eb, and piccolo in Bb or A for close to 20 years.
If you're serious about pursuing a key specific short shank mouthpiece we'll be happy to convert your existing mouthpiece or a new one. We stock the major brands and can perform the service in a day (see link for mouthpiece mods available) http://www.osmun.com/mpcmod
I hope this is helpful.
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Flip Oakes C tpt mpcs (by Mark Curry) are short-shank with larger throat and backbore. That is what I play. Mark and Flip worked together on them.
Several mpc makers list short-shank on their websites, though finding stock may be a challenge.
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Bob Reeves makes the C2J line , short shank pieces with a unique very deep V cup that makes my Bb sounds like a flugel.
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Stork also makes short shank m'pieces. I'm not sure if they're standard catalog items or special request. Give them a call.
Wedge m'pieces also offer a short shank backbore for screw top pieces.
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| giakara wrote: | | Bob Reeves makes the C2J line , short shank pieces with a unique very deep V cup that makes my Bb sounds like a flugel. |
Reeves' Dynamic Mass mouthpieces are also a bit shorter than standard length mouthpieces, though from what I understand they are't a set length - the length varies with each one based on the model.
My 43C Dynamic Mass is shorter than my other pieces, though not as short as a Monette or a Curry short-shank.
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See also the "ReesePiece" (discussed in another thread just this week). Sold by Larson, built by Curry.
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| VetPsychWars wrote: | | jondrowjf@gmail.com wrote: | Thanks everyone for the information on short shank trumpet mouthpieces.
Does Yamaha or Bach have short shank trumpet mouthpiece.Haven't played a trumpet in two years. Like the short shank mouthpieces on my cornet. |
Trumpet mouthpieces aren't the same. The overall length is mostly the same except where the length is changed to compensate for other factors to bring it into tune.
So I think you're chasing something you don't need to chase.
Tom |
I agree. It sounds like you want to use a piece similar to your cornet piece in length on your trumpet. I suggest that this is likely a bad idea and not likely to produce good results. Short trumpet mouthpieces are relatively uncommon and are made for very specific purposes. I'd advise you, if you haven't already, to first try the stock Yamaha 11 or 14 pieces, in either B or C cup.
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Trent Austin at Austin Custom Brass makes shorter shanked mps. Some of his heavier blanks (modern blank) use shorter lengths to help balance them out. Also I have a traditional blank (Bach style) mouthpiece MV3B mouthpiece that is a little shorter then my MV3C trad blank mouthpiece.
I love these mouthpieces. Thanks Trent.
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Not to resurrect this topic, but what is the overall advantage of making your, let's say Eb-trumpet, mouthpiece into a short shank?
Does this improve intonation? |
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| coraltrpt wrote: | Not to resurrect this topic, but what is the overall advantage of making your, let's say Eb-trumpet, mouthpiece into a short shank?
Does this improve intonation? |
In a properly designed short shank mouthpiece it can. It can also change response and perceived resistance.
The mouthpiece needs to be designed and balanced as a whole. The backbore, throat and possibly cup need to be balanced together for the whole system to work. The length is part of the equation.
And simply taking a mouthpiece and hacking the end off won't accomplish a whole lot. The other components would need to be adjusted as well.
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| coraltrpt wrote: | Not to resurrect this topic, but what is the overall advantage of making your, let's say Eb-trumpet, mouthpiece into a short shank?
Does this improve intonation? |
Thanks to Aurthur Benade http://acousticalsociety.org/about/awards/gold/12_10_10_benade
and put into practice by David Monette, the idea behind key specific length mouthpieces is to shift the alignment of open partials so problematic pitches like 5th partial (4th space E) are more in tune (not flat).
Not to steal Mark Curry's thunder, some twenty years ago we were the first to convert Marc Reese's Bach mouthpieces. At that time Marc was new to Empire Brass and was seeking a way to acclimate to Bach equipment after spending several years playing Monette. For us the logical solution was to modify Marc's Bach mouthpieces in order to provide the scale he had grown accustomed to. Since then we've converted countless mouthpieces for Marc and his students.
We're be happy to convert any mouthpiece you may have to key specific length. This service includes cutting the over all length, turning down the tapered shank, adjusting the throat and back bore as needed to balance the mouthpiece.
I hope this is helpful.
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I'll vouch for Osmun's services! I recently had them make a short shank version of my Bb mouthpiece with a 24 backbore and 24 throat for my C trumpet. It works exactly as advertised - better flexibility, an easier blow that is much closer to my Bb, and improved intonation to the point where I hardly have to bother with alternate fingerings. I love it.
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Very cool.
Mr. Becker, how would I proceed on your website to buy a mouthpiece/have it short-shanked for a Schilke Eb trumpet? |
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| coraltrpt wrote: | Very cool.
Mr. Becker, how would I proceed on your website to buy a mouthpiece/have it short-shanked for a Schilke Eb trumpet? |
Thanks for asking. Apparently that modification never made it to new mouthpiece purchase options function. Until it's added I suggest you phone the shop at 978-823-0850 and request the mouthpiece brand and size you'd like to purchase along with the specific key you want it converted for and the sales person will process your order.
If you have a mouthpiece of your own you'd like us to convert simply ship it to us for this service.
I hope this is helpful.
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