Kiss your Comparator goodbye?

TKSop · Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:08 pm Post subject: Kiss your Comparator goodbye?

Just noticed the comparator links I had are both broken - and I'm seeing no sign of the comparator on the updated website?

I know it's always been easy to be misled by it (individual scans not being representative of current production models, for starters), but I for one shall miss having that resource available.

Here's hoping Kanstul will reinstate it at some point... or that someone else will be willing to host something comparable instead.

Richard III · Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:14 pm Post subject:

None of my mouthpieces have ever seen the Comparator. How did people get by pre-Comparator? All my my mouthpieces are pre-1950 with just a C for cornet on them? No stats and no reviews. Maybe you just played it.

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TKSop · Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 5:16 pm Post subject:

Indeed - people got by before and they'll get by again...

But you know what they say: knowledge is power.

And with a little caution, the comparator was an incredibly valuable resource.

jaysonr · Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 7:08 pm Post subject:

The "2.0" doesn't seem to have the images archived, but the older (black screen) version works on the Internet Archive Wayback machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160425104023/http://www.kanstul.com/mpcJN/Compare/CompareJRFF1.html
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Andy Cooper · Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 7:16 pm Post subject:

The Kanstul site says the mouthpiece catalog is "under construction". Perhaps the comparator will return when they are finished.

trumanjazzguy · Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 9:30 pm Post subject:

It's about time they updated it. Some of the scans were ENTIRELY not even representative of an average mouthpiece. They really need to scan at least 10 copies and submit the average of all of them, to even be slightly relevant.
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trumanjazzguy · Posted: Thu May 25, 2017 9:31 pm Post subject:

Plus, they're missing MANY brands that many people use today. I always wished you could recommend mouthpieces to scan.
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FL: Jupiter 1100R
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TPT: 34-throat shallow double-cup, Chet Baker’s Custom Schilke, Bach Corp 3, Bach Mt. Vernon 6C, Ken Titmus BF Custom(s).
CRN: NY Giardinelli 7SV.
FL: Yamaha Bobby Shew

Locutus2k · Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:21 am Post subject:

Jim New on his website has a mouthpiece comparator working and he adds models from time to time.
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TKSop · Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:38 am Post subject:

razeontherock · Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 6:24 am Post subject:

The scans represent the mpcs made by Kanstul, which basically meant Jim New.

I'm not sure of the cost of scanning, but nobody does it for free.

delano · Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 10:15 am Post subject:

I suppose you have all more insight and more knowledge than me but I believe that the comparators are boy's toy's with at maximum an indicating worth and in fact they made me make more mistakes with them than without them. And believe me, I have/had a lot of mouthpieces.

Don Herman rev2 · Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 10:18 am Post subject:

Wonder how many who used the comparator (and/or complained about it) actually bought mouthpieces from Kanstul? Hopefully they do derive some benefit (profit) from it...
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epoustoufle · Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 1:14 am Post subject:

Louise Finch · Posted: Sat May 27, 2017 2:50 am Post subject:

Hi

http://www.kanstul.com/MPcompare/MouthpieceComparator.html

This link seems to work ok.

Regarding buying Kanstul mouthpieces, all mine were Kanstul and are now a mixture of Kanstul and James R New (I continued to use Jim New when he left Kanstul). Admittedly however mine are the same custom top (copy of my own particular 2005 Bach 3C, so obviously not one of the Kanstul scans) with standard backbores.

I don't however tend to use the Kanstul backbore comparator, as I find it harder to compare backbores than cups.

All the best

Lou
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Bflatman · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Nov 2016 Posts: 720

I think in some cases knowledge is not power it is weakness.

I never found any value in the comparator, when it comes down to it there are so many factors in the mix that knowing fine detail differences between mouthpieces is just chasing shadows.

How does it blow

TKSop · Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:20 am Post subject:

Louise Finch · Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:34 am Post subject:

John Mohan · Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:22 am Post subject:

homebilly · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 1:22 am Post subject:

i went to use the comparator but only got an ad for a pair of used
Claude Jammies

john are you selling your old pair ?????
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MF Fan · Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:39 pm Post subject:

The Kanstul Comparator is back up, but a large percentage of the mouthpieces scans that were available in the past are missing. Any ideas if they'll be bringing back the others?

http://www.kanstul.com/MPcompare/MouthpieceComparator.html
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