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jarvis tremintosy New Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 1 Location: portland oregon
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Looking for in mouthpiece mic/pick-up,any ideas? |
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I have been using an old barcus berry transducer microphone from about 1976.However the one I have been using seems to be on its last legs. My mouthpiece has been customized to take it. I would like to stay with the in mouth piece mic/pick-up. I have had no luck locating a replacment on ebay and there does not seem to be anybody manufacturing anything like it currently. Any advice. I have been running through tube amplifiers including a Fender Delux, with a boss me-50 effects processor . I had been using an MXR micro-amp as a pre-amp, but recently procured the orginal barcus berry pre-amp that goes with mic. I would love to stay with the in mouth piece set up. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. |
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pfrank Heavyweight Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2002 Posts: 3523 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Congradulations! 31 years is a good run, like a Toyota with 300,000 miles...
I had a King pickup "nipple" drilled into my mp about when you got your barcusberry, but it fell apart sometime in the early 90s so I had to switch to microphones. Eventually the nipple wore down so the transducer wouldn't stay on and the jack into the belt-preamp was another point of weakness (just like a walkman). I have seen the King transducer/preamp/octave box on ebay once or twice, but the seller was always asking mucho dinero (like, over $300!) ridiculous really, for what it was.
However aggrivated I was at the time it fell apart, I have come to appreciate microphones over transducers. MUCH better fidelity! Yes, the transducer was effective with effects (partly because of the limited frequency range), but a mic technique can be just as good as long as you limit feedback, and it's much better for the straight trumpet sound.
Good luck! |
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nowave Veteran Member
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 453 Location: brooklyn
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Wow! I'm amazed your B-B lasted so long. The weak link (at least for me) was the thin wire leading into the transducer. I had at least two and they always died within a couple of years.
When I used mine (1980s) it was the perfect way to get a heavily processed & overdriven sound without feedback (using a mute to cut the acoustic sound of the horn). There has to be someone who could fabricate something similar today, but I doubt there's anything commercially available anymore.
If you search for posts by pfrank and mulligan stew (among others) you'll get some good feedback regarding mic setups. I know that mulligan gets some very processed sounds using a high-quality close mic - without feedback issues. |
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MarkZ Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 615
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:33 am Post subject: |
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This story has a happy ending.
As it turned out, I had a Barcus Berry trumpet transducer since the late '70s. I probably hadn't used it since then.
Through the miracle of Paypal and UPS, jarvis tremintosy now has it, along with a well worn spare mouthpiece drilled out for it and a '70s vintage Electo Harmonix "power booster".
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ConnCoprion Heavyweight Member
Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Posts: 1620
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:45 am Post subject: |
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MarkZ wrote: | This story has a happy ending.
As it turned out, I had a Barcus Berry trumpet transducer since the late '70s. I probably hadn't used it since then.
Through the miracle of Paypal and UPS, jarvis tremintosy now has it, along with a well worn spare mouthpiece drilled out for it and a '70s vintage Electo Harmonix "power booster". |
And that's why we all love TH! _________________ Philippians 1:6 |
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tbear2500 New Member
Joined: 30 Aug 2011 Posts: 1 Location: Wisconsin, US
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Not to resurrect a dead horse, but I recently came across one of these mouthpieces and have been unable to find a suitable pickup for it. I am aware of the aforementioned bad sound and all, but I would like to have it in large part for the novelty, and the uniqueness to some extent as well. I have noticed, though, that there are many pickups for acoustic guitars with similar designs. Do any of you know if one of these would work (assuming I secured it properly), or if the volume or pressure at the pickup would damage it? |
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Chris "Elliot" New Member
Joined: 16 Oct 2015 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:07 am Post subject: |
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I'm looking for a pick up as well to use with my trumpet, I know where I can drill my mouthpiece.
Did someone know which modern pick up always for sale I can use? |
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FromTheLoft New Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2014 Posts: 1 Location: Spring, TX
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Serious time delay bump, but in any case ...
I have not tried this, but noticed today that the following company sells a pickup drilled into the mouthpiece ...
http://Piezobarrel.com
This is discussed in the context of an "Electric Trumpet" demonstration by Brian Hayes at:
https://youtu.be/nVEDn2FIJso
... where he feeds this into a couple of guitar effects pedals.
I hope this helps someone. I think I am going the Voco Loco route to feed into effects pedals. But it looks like a good solution.
Best regards,
- Scott |
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