Cornet vs Trumpet (a quick video difference)

ButchA

Here's another quick video I just uploaded to You Tube. I am showing the differences between a cornet and a trumpet (for non musicians/relatives/FB friends), and played a few quick bars of Gershwin's "Someone To Watch Over Me".
Cornet - Bach 7C MP
Trumpet - Curry 3M MP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eutpWZHsKTE

P.S. I am dressed like that on a Saturday, because I am getting ready for a buddy's wedding this afternoon, and am multi-tasking, trying to make a video, practice music, get myself ready, getting hollered at by my wife, who is also getting ready... *sigh*

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Bob Stevenson · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:58 am Post subject:

....Maybe it's just been a very bad day today...and I was always taught as a youngster that; "if you can't say somethiong nice then don't say anything".....but for 54 years the cornet (not the cornette, that's a quite different instrument) was a major part of my whole life.......

.......Why, did you make the video and what on earth is this about, please?

ButchA · Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:24 pm Post subject:

Uh... I was just making a video showing the differences between the horns, and decided to post it here too. If you want me to remove it, just say so.
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1975 Olds Ambassador Cornet --> my new/used eBay special. Sounds great!
2018 Regiment WI-800 Bugle --> my inexpensive Chinese made bugle from Amazon.

jondrowjf@gmail.com · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Jul 2016 Posts: 663

Thanks for posting your video. Enjoyed your upbeat attitude.
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ButchA

Bob Stevenson · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:50 am Post subject:

This is the sound of the cornet;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKEqH0PmkaQ

.....listen to the slow passage and hear the sound at the end of the phrases...note the sweetness and that the 'hard' sounding passages don't shreak or scream but have 'edge'.... notice that in the 'pp' passages the sound is essentially the same.

This is the sound of the trumpet, (played by a virtuoso cornet player)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt_ydZAq3Mk

notice that the sound is much more 'treble' and bright compared to the cornet.....hear that even in the 'pp' passages the sound is still bright and fresh...the sound is regal and 'heraldic' compared to the cornets sweetness.

ButchA · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:56 am Post subject:

Thank you... I've played trumpet ever since 4th grade in school, but never owned a cornet (until now). Basically I was curious about the differences in tone and styles.

Edit: Incredible videos! How, they were amazing!

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1967 Holton Collegiate Trumpet --> my grade school band trumpet. I just can't part with it!
1975 Olds Ambassador Cornet --> my new/used eBay special. Sounds great!
2018 Regiment WI-800 Bugle --> my inexpensive Chinese made bugle from Amazon.

kehaulani · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:46 am Post subject:

And here is the sound of an AMERICAN cornet playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2haVZc--rC8

Some say the difference between the two horns is great, some say that some cornets sound just like trumpets. To me, it depends on the era of the music, national characteristics and the equipment, itself. In which case you can say they are different sounding instruments.

You are playing two different makes/models and two different mouthpieces. Plus, as mentioned, there may be a difference in your perceived difference in horns that manifest in how you play them.
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ButchA · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:52 am Post subject:

Wow, that was beautiful!!! See, that's the sound I hear in my head from a cornet. A type of beautiful singing tone... A sweet brass sound that you could play in church...
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1967 Holton Collegiate Trumpet --> my grade school band trumpet. I just can't part with it!
1975 Olds Ambassador Cornet --> my new/used eBay special. Sounds great!
2018 Regiment WI-800 Bugle --> my inexpensive Chinese made bugle from Amazon.

Seymor B Fudd · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:08 am Post subject:

delano · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:08 am Post subject:

Dieter Z · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:03 am Post subject:

GENERALLY speaking, the American Brass Band playing is more brighter sounding then the BRITISH brass Band Sound.

Bob Stevenson and kehaulani posted a good example of that.

I assume the two main reasons are the sound concept we have in our mind and the mouthpieces (deep vs. more shallow)we use.
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ButchA · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:36 am Post subject:

Richard III · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:37 am Post subject:

Finally got a chance to listen to the video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Totally different sound and I loved your easy approach to the whole thing.
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ButchA · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:01 am Post subject:

Thank you! I never played cornet before and I wanted to learn the differences between the two, so I made a video of it.
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1967 Holton Collegiate Trumpet --> my grade school band trumpet. I just can't part with it!
1975 Olds Ambassador Cornet --> my new/used eBay special. Sounds great!
2018 Regiment WI-800 Bugle --> my inexpensive Chinese made bugle from Amazon.

Fubar · New Member Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Posts: 7 Location: Missouri

Cool Cornet Video! Do you play it in the, Million Dollar Band?

ButchA · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:27 pm Post subject:

I will alternate between 2nd chair trumpet in the "Million Dollar Band" and the cornet on certain pieces that we play.
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1967 Holton Collegiate Trumpet --> my grade school band trumpet. I just can't part with it!
1975 Olds Ambassador Cornet --> my new/used eBay special. Sounds great!
2018 Regiment WI-800 Bugle --> my inexpensive Chinese made bugle from Amazon.

RandyTX · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:47 pm Post subject:

Putting a 7C in a cornet should probably require you to stop calling it a cornet anymore.

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Seymor B Fudd · Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:13 am Post subject: