Trad Groups Without Piano

jhatpro · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:09 am Post subject: Trad Groups Without Piano

I'm looking for recordings of a trad group that matches our instrumentation: cornet, clarinet/tenor, trombone, guitar, bass, drums. No piano.

We're going for a Chicago-style sound versus the two-beat and tuba/banjo-backed New Orleans approach.

Groups led by Muggsy Spanier, Eddie Condon, Jimmy McPartland come close but all have piano as far as I know.

Any suggestions?
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Turkle · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:13 am Post subject:

Check out the Ruby Braff album called "As Time Goes By." Ruby on cornet, with guitar and bass. Magnificent stuff, one of my favorite albums. No drums, but it might give you some ideas regarding texture and swing.

Spotify link: https://open.spotify.com/album/6TDll61fOU8UDiGX1r12Qw
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jhatpro · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:39 am Post subject:

Thanks! Ruby a fav of mine! Saw him years in Chicago. Bad weather prompted a small house but it did't deter him from delivering a great show!

And no drums? Something I've been thinking about since our drummer arrived for the last gig four minutes before the sound check.
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Jim Hatfield

"The notes are there - find them.” Mingus

2021 Martinus Geelan Custom
2005 Bach 180-72R
1965 Getzen Eterna Severinsen
1946 Conn Victor
1998 Scodwell flugel
1986 Bach 181 cornet
1954 Conn 80A cornet
2002 Getzen bugle

delano · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:27 am Post subject:

Try to find The Dutch Swing College record 'At the Sportpalace Berlin from 1962.

Ed Kennedy · Heavyweight Member Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 3187

Banjo for trad and guitar (a la Condon) for swing. Any guitar player should be able to play a tenor banjo tuned like a baritone uke.

Richard III · Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:29 pm Post subject:

Traditional bands started as marching bands. Bass drum for rhythm. No piano. Tuba became bass when everybody went inside and got dignified.
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Oncewasaplayer · Heavyweight Member Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 974

check out the NOLA Jazz Vipers. Guitar, Bass, (no drum or piano), alto, trombone, sometimes a bari, sometimes a trumpet. They have a wonderful four-beat swing feel.

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