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bobbystern
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:55 am    Post subject: The Cycle of 5ths Reply with quote

As a naturally occurring overtone of the harmonic series, the interval of a (Perfect) Fifth, and ultimately the Cycle (Circle) of Fifths (4ths) - upon which the fundamentals of Western melody and harmony is based - often gets taken for granted by both beginning and advanced improvisers alike.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did you get that information?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did you get that question?
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Brad361
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:23 am    Post subject: Re: The Cycle of 5ths Reply with quote

bobbystern wrote:
As a naturally occurring overtone of the harmonic series, the interval of a (Perfect) Fifth, and ultimately the Cycle (Circle) of Fifths (4ths) - upon which the fundamentals of Western melody and harmony is based - often gets taken for granted by both beginning and advanced improvisers alike.


Taken for granted in what way? Not meant to be snarky response, I really don’t know what you mean.

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bobbystern
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taken for granted, possibly, like most of us take electricity for granted. It's there - we use it and don't think about it (until it's not - or until we get the bill!).

I included a link to a blog post, which may have been overlooked, which may either clarify or confuse.

I'm also referencing my own experience.

Thanks for your attention.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: The Cycle of 5ths Reply with quote

bobbystern wrote:
As a naturally occurring overtone of the harmonic series, the interval of a (Perfect) Fifth, and ultimately the Cycle (Circle) of Fifths (4ths) - upon which the fundamentals of Western melody and harmony is based - often gets taken for granted by both beginning and advanced improvisers alike.

I just looked you up - that's an impressive resume. I'm going to dig into your blog to see what I can find because my ability to improvise (or lack thereof) has been a big hole in my abilities as a player for my whole career.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's assumption is based on the overtone series, but with non-universal assumptions.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IME, it (Circle of 4ths/traditional W modulation/etc.) doesn't seem to be by a lot of the methods and teachers (myself included) I've been privy to.
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