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Turkle Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:13 pm Post subject: Jazz etudes? |
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Howdy, all.
I love practicing etudes. Charlier, Clarke, Arban, Brandt, etc. Most of my playing is jazz these days, and revisiting my favorite etudes, and of course learning new ones, is a perfect way to make sure I'm challenging myself on the absolute bedrock fundamentals and musicianship.
But all the etudes I currently play are either those classic cornet or classical trumpet studies.
My question is: I've seen books of jazz etudes around. Have any of you folks used any of these? Are they worth adding to my arsenal? Are there any you would specifically recommend?
Currently, when I need a "jazz etude" I just read through Charlie Parker or Clifford Brown transcriptions, or similar. So maybe that's enough!
Thanks! And cheers. _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
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There are tons of books you can play from, qPress has a ton right here. In the end you just find the material that you love to play and inspires you to pick up the horn and practice. That is what great material can do for you. Play it all till it gets stale and pick up something new to give you a boost. _________________ Check out qPress for the largest selection of trumpet books on the internet. |
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pepperdean Heavyweight Member
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I don't know if, or where, it might be available but Jazz Conception for Saxophone (20 Jazz Etudes) by Lennie Niehaus is one I like. Since it's for saxophone, it also stretches your high register a little. It was originally published by Try Publishing Co, Hollywood, CA. |
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Mindlink Regular Member
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Hugh Anderson Veteran Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Rich Willey's are in the trumpet range. |
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Jafuentes3 Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Jazz etudes? |
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Turkle wrote: | Howdy, all.
Currently, when I need a "jazz etude" I just read through Charlie Parker or Clifford Brown transcriptions, or similar. So maybe that's enough!
Thanks! And cheers. |
I don't know how far you are into your Jazz studies (This is more of a general idea for everyone). I think it is awesome you are looking for as many resources as you can! I think that transcriptions from the solos of the great players are probably the best "Jazz Etudes" out there.
The Charlie Parker omnibook is filled with technically challenging lines even for the most advanced players! But I think that the greatest value of practicing Parker's solos is the LANGUAGE you can take out from them (Articulations, phrasing, resolutions, change running, etc!). I have yet to see a Jazz Etude that gives me better ideas for lines in real playing situations than any transcription from the great Jazz musicians we love! (This is my opinion of course) It's like killing 2 birds with one stone.
So in short words, Jazz etudes are great! but I am sure I am going to shed the Parker omnibook for the rest of my life.
Hope it helps!
All best,
J. |
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pepperdean Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:43 am Post subject: |
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You might also look at Advanced Rhythms by Joe Allard. Those can get pretty challenging.
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aaronwolf1 New Member
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I enjoy Etudes as well. Search on your own and you'll often find good things. _________________ Aaron |
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Help yourself to stuff off my site. (link below) _________________ Jeff Helgesen
Free jazz solo transcriptions! |
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PH Bill Adam/Carmine Caruso Forum Moderator
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Jim Snidero books (There's another one coming with Jeremy Pelt playing on the recording. I just did some proof reading for Jim.)
Rich Willey books.
Charlie Parker Omnibook in Bb and in Eb (for lead player range). _________________ Bach trumpet artist-clinician
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Turkle Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:17 am Post subject: |
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PH wrote: | Jim Snidero books |
Thanks, those look really good.
Cheers folks, thanks for the suggestions. _________________ Yamaha 8310Z trumpet
Yamaha 8310Z flugel
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I've found that working on the heads of really hard bebop tunes is immensely helpful. Try some Dizzy tunes and things such as Donna Lee. They help build accuracy and are a great source for harmonic and melodic ideas. Once you can play them at full speed (typically 200+ bpm), then push it one further by trying to play along with a recording. Start with some sort of sheet music and get to the point of sounding identical to the recording, including blending with it. Once you have that, memorize the tune and play along to that same level. In the end you will OWN that tune and will have become a better player in the process. After you have mastered one tune, do the same thing with another. It's a never-ending cycle. Well... at least until you run out of music. If you do that though, I think it would be safe to call you a virtuoso. _________________ 1880's Thompson & Odell Boston
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1903 L&H "Improved Own Make"
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:45 am Post subject: |
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There's certainly nothing wrong with playing jazz heads and the like, but it's not exactly "developmental" in the sense of taking stereotypical licks, isolating them, and developing them in a traditional, pedagogical sense.
Books for sax players seem to concentrate on this more. See books by Bob Mintzer, Lennie Niehaus, and Jerry Coker.
Does anybody know of a book for trumpeters, (more limited range for example), that is like Lennie Niehaus's Jazz Conception For Saxophone series? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Billy B Heavyweight Member
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Pat Harbison books _________________ Bill Bergren |
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