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trumpetchops
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:05 am    Post subject: Help Identifying a Bach trumpet Reply with quote

I bought a Mt. Vernon Bach with no model number and nothing on the lead pipe. I would like to know what bell and lead pipe it has. I called the factory and gave them the serial number. They told me there is no information on the trumpet.

I've heard of people getting the shop cards. Does anyone know how I could get this info?

Medium Bore 18357
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they said there's no info available then I'd guess either there is no shop card, or it contains nothing helpful?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TKSop wrote:
If they said there's no info available then I'd guess either there is no shop card, or it contains nothing helpful?


I don't think they tried very hard. They have sales history in the computer for about ten years.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bach stopped making shop cards soon after closing their shop in Mt. Vernon. I'm not sure exactly when, but somebody here will know I'm sure. Unless it's a Mt. Vernon or NY Bach, there is probably no shop card.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irving wrote:
Bach stopped making shop cards soon after closing their shop in Mt. Vernon. I'm not sure exactly when, but somebody here will know I'm sure. Unless it's a Mt. Vernon or NY Bach, there is probably no shop card.

Bach Loyalist Shop Cards

This says they stopped using shop cards in the 30,xxx serial number range.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try asking by email. Phil Parker.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had this happen before for some of my collection - that they could not located a shop card for a instrument prior to 30,xxx.

Some instruments do not have shop cards, as they were lost, misplaced, etc. after more than 50-75 years...

Do ask very politely, and they might look again for you... Good luck -
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually if the Bell is stamped Stradivarius Model with no number it's a 43 bell.
But in the case of your M bore horn, more than likely a model 38 bell.
The lead pipe would more than likely be a 25 pipe.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan in Sydney wrote:
Usually if the Bell is stamped Stradivarius Model with no number it's a 43 bell.
But in the case of your M bore horn, more than likely a model 38 bell.
The lead pipe would more than likely be a 25 pipe.

For quite some time they were using the 7 pipe as a standard pipe not the 25.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
Many of the M bore Strads had a 38 bell but not all. My NY Strad # 5391 has a 37 bell according to the shop card. There were no numbers on the bell or the leadpipe receiver.The best source is the card if you can get it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you to the people on here that sent me an email for Bach.

The factory wrote back.

The trumpet was made in 1959
It has a 37 Bell and 25 lead-pipe.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

trumpetchops wrote:
Thank you to the people on here that sent me an email for Bach.

The factory wrote back.

The trumpet was made in 1959
It has a 37 Bell and 25 lead-pipe.


Glad you found out what you got!

For what it’s worth on the M bore I prefer the 37 to the 38 bell. It’s a little more focused and brighter. More versatile horn IMO

Enjoy it!
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