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Robert P
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:01 am    Post subject: 'Roids and range Reply with quote

In another thread someone mentioned steroids. Has anyone seeing this ever known someone to enhance - or try to enhance their range with PED's? Many trumpet players being the way they are it wouldn't surprise me if someone has tried it.

I never thought of it as a necessity to play high. Obviously some players are brawnier than others but a lot of those who can play high aren't big bruisers. Maynard was a beanpole in his youth.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your asking for a friend, right?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen To Liesl Whitacker ans ask again...
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trumpet Herald has jumped the shark.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Sailors wrote:
Trumpet Herald has jumped the shark.


Ha! 🦈 😄

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lynn Nicholson
Brian MacDonald
Liesl Whitaker
Elizabeth Schneller - http://www.yamaha.com/artists/elizabethschneller.html

All thin and all have a great high range.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good heavens... I thought this was going to be a thread about hemorrhoids and straining during compression. (And no, I'm not joking; this was an issue with a friend of mine.)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morogan wrote:
Good heavens... I thought this was going to be a thread about hemorrhoids and straining during compression. (And no, I'm not joking; this was an issue with a friend of mine.)
Me, too. Guess not all 'roids are equal.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nevermind
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guess you guys missed this article a few years ago:

From Reuters news service San Bernadino County Sun http://www.sbsun.com/



TRUMPET STAR ADMITS ILLEGAL DRUG USE



AP network1452/ 5/29/02 artSBSUN47/



After years of speculation that some of the music world's top high note
trumpet artists or lead players were using illegal range-building drugs, a
former Stan Kenton lead trumpet disclosed that he used steroids.



Sid (The Hat) Febreschi, a veteran of the big bands, nightclubs, and
Broadway musicals became the first trumpet player to publicly acknowledge
using performance enhancing drugs.

In an article that will appear in the upcoming issue of Jazziz magazine,
Febreschi stated that he began taking the illegal, range-enhancing drug in
1972, when he was lead trumpet with the legendary band leader, Stan Kenton.



"It's no secret what's going on out there" Febreschi said. "Most if not all
the high note players juice up. It's part of what's happening. They joke and
talk about it at dinner."



"There's money in playing high," Febreschi continued, "If I don't do it,
some young juiced-up punk is gonna' just come in and take my place."



Current Las Vegas lead trumpeter Dan Smiley says "I played with Sid for over
ten years. He was never one to hide anything. He was using 'roids all the
time we played together. It's not a big deal, though. Everybody does it.
Hell, I haven't worked out of Schlossburg since the Nixon administration."



Dr. Roger Boughton of Maryland State Medical School has studied the
fascination that the world has for high note trumpet artists. "When one
hears the soaring sound of Maynard Ferguson, one is taken back to a time
when music was pure and troubles were few. Due to this phenomena, there has
been an unnatural demand placed on the lead trumpet player. The modern lead
trumpet player is now expected to have a loud "G", which twenty years ago
was limited to a fortunate few."



The effects of steroid use vary from player to player, but Febreschi at 60
swears by them. "Hell, look at Doc and Maynard. These guys are well into
their 70's and they peal the paint off your shiny new car there sonny."



To read this article in it's entirety click on
http://www.sbsun.com/news/articles/0502/29/new123.asp
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EBjazz wrote:

Hell, I haven't worked out of Schlossburg since the Nixon administration."


LOL
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just waiting for the posts talking about being muscle bound, and how detrimental anabolic steroids are to your health.

Most people know very little about steroids, what they do, and what's considered proper use, and what's considered abuse.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Sailors wrote:
Trumpet Herald has jumped the shark.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eric posted an interesting article. I suppose that a PED could be any substance that is misused in order to enhance performance. So, the list might be broader than just anabolic steroids. And not all of the substances would necessarily be illicit. For a trumpet player, it might also include catabolic steroids, beta blockers, amphetamines, benzodiazepines, antihistamines, nsaids, lip balms, alcohol, and psychoactive substances.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Huh... can't believe folks would risk their long term health for a few high notes... crazy...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldpipesandchops wrote:
Huh... can't believe folks would risk their long term health for a few high notes... crazy...

Aaaaand here we are with the first person who seems to think that taking any kind of steroids leads to long-term health issues.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TrumpetMD wrote:
Eric posted an interesting article. I suppose that a PED could be any substance that is misused in order to enhance performance. So, the list might be broader than just anabolic steroids. And not all of the substances would necessarily be illicit. For a trumpet player, it might also include catabolic steroids, beta blockers, amphetamines, benzodiazepines, antihistamines, nsaids, lip balms, alcohol, and psychoactive substances.

Mike


I really hate when drugs like beta blockers are referred to as "performance enhancing". We equate steroids with providing gains that would otherwise not be achievable naturally. Beta blockers don't do that. They don't help you play higher, faster or louder. They do help you to play to the best of your natural ability in a high stress situation.

If I'm paying big bucks to see a show and the performers can provide a top level performance on beta blockers then that's money well spent to me. I'm not gonna listen to missed notes and nerve related bull**** because "beta blockers are performance enhancing"
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:05 pm    Post subject: ooohhh Yea Reply with quote

I injected a d ball cycle into my lips. I bench 345, squat 500 and deadlift 525.

I play triple C all night every night.

This is the worst thread on TH ever.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:28 pm    Post subject: Re: ooohhh Yea Reply with quote

Jabroni wrote:

This is the worst thread on TH ever.


All this thread needs is Capt. Kirk posting an insane, poorly informed, 6,000-word rant about different types of steroids and it would certainly be a contender.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a post-shark-jump poll question: If there was a drug that would give you Maynard/Doc/Chase range, but would kill you in ten years, would you take it?

Depending on the population being asked, I'd guess the Yes votes would approach 50%.
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