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Locutus2k Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:52 am Post subject: Let's talk about the Edwards X-13 trumpet |
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Lot of hype for the Edwards X-13 trumpet but very little first hand experience.
This trumpet looks very interesting, i would like to read some review / impressions on how it plays, strong points, weak etc. from owners or users who had a chance to play it. _________________ ------------------------
Edwards X-13
Lawler TL5 Balanced 30th Anniversary (#2 of 5)
Lawler TL5 L bore
Bach NY Special edition 2008
Flugel Van Laar Oiram Ack
Mark Curry mouthpieces
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bagmangood Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:42 am Post subject: |
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I played one for a few minutes at ACB, and that was probably the easiest playing trumpet I've ever held. Super quick response, clear articulations, flexibile, the works.
My one caveat is it doesn't have that much "core" or "ring" to my ears, but if that's not a issue, it's a killer horn. _________________ More than one trumpet
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Locutus2k Heavyweight Member
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 635 Location: Rome, Italy
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:48 am Post subject: |
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bagmangood wrote: | I played one for a few minutes at ACB, and that was probably the easiest playing trumpet I've ever held. Super quick response, clear articulations, flexibile, the works.
My one caveat is it doesn't have that much "core" or "ring" to my ears, but if that's not a issue, it's a killer horn. |
Very interesting, i was thinkin' "lot of core" instead. Thank you for sharing your experience. _________________ ------------------------
Edwards X-13
Lawler TL5 Balanced 30th Anniversary (#2 of 5)
Lawler TL5 L bore
Bach NY Special edition 2008
Flugel Van Laar Oiram Ack
Mark Curry mouthpieces
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scottfsmith Veteran Member
Joined: 27 Jun 2015 Posts: 474 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:35 am Post subject: |
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I played it for a bit at ITG this past summer. I was zooming through booth after booth and horn after horn thinking I was about done but that one really grabbed my attention. I had never heard of X-13 before then and had no idea of anything other than it was yet another horn sitting on a stand to try out.
I was specifically looking for "core" since my old Yamaha Xeno was primarily lacking in that so while I don't remember too many details I must have thought it had core for me.
I couldn't afford an X-13 but I bought a Gen 3 at a fire sale price, they were unloading all their old stock. That horn also has a really good core. _________________ Thane Standard Large Bb / Monette Unity B6-7M mpc
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yourbrass Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:59 am Post subject: |
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I've written about this trumpet a few times before. I thought it was a standout at the 2015 ITG in SoCal. If I wanted a new trumpet for jazz playing, this would be it - it played great! _________________ "Strive for tone." -John Coppola
Edwards X-13
ACB MV3C /ACB A1/26 backbore
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shofarguy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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yourbrass wrote: | I've written about this trumpet a few times before. I thought it was a standout at the 2015 ITG in SoCal. If I wanted a new trumpet for jazz playing, this would be it - it played great! |
I also played it at the same event. The most memorable thing to me was the combination of the "strong core" mentioned above and its exceptionally light weight, which promotes the fast response. These two things don't typically go together, but the Getzen/Edwards guys put a lot of effort into isolating points where mass adds resonance and where lightness can be added without subtracting resonance. Very nice trumpet. Very notable accomplishment. _________________ Brian A. Douglas
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper
There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds. |
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Divitt Trumpets Heavyweight Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2015 Posts: 520 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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It was my favourite at ITG2016.
Wonderful horn. |
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:40 am Post subject: |
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I played the X-13 at ITG. My first impression was…wow! I liked it so much that I sold a few of my horns so that I could purchase one.
For me, the X-13 provides a full, clear sound that holds together at the dynamic extremes better than any horn I have ever played.
The X-13 is very free blowing. When I first started playing it I had a tendency to overshoot notes in the upper register when switching from another horn, particularly my C trumpet. That “problem” went away as I became more familiar with the horn. |
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Usedtobegood Veteran Member
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 442 Location: Cary, IL
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Played the final prototype at a Chicago trumpet hang several years ago. It was mine as well as several other guys favorite. I thought it had everything, great core, slotting and with a commercial piece just sizzled. The blow was not too open and had resistance farther down the horn which I like. If I had the cash I'd have one in my quiver as my main horn. The Edwards guys nailed it in my opinion. |
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PaoloOneArm Regular Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 12 Location: Italy
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Hi guys
I'm interested in Edwards X-13. In Italy Edwards is not a common trumpet. Maybe for the price, mybe for not very well marketing action of the dealer... I don't know. Just one week ago I saw a X-13 on sale in a FB group. I took some info and from what I also read here it is a great instrument. I know Edwards and Getzen are in some way "correlated" let's say. Edwards mechanics come from Getzen. I have a '70 Getzen Eterna and I love it: large bore, less that 1000 grams, easy to play, great valves.
I'm asking a favor: one of you guys, who has the X-13, can let me know the weight in grams? As I'm a one arm player, the weight is the feature number 1 (unfortunately). You said it is light. But if you can weight it for me, it could be great
A huge thank you
Paolo _________________ Bach72* customized (Amado, rings, golden part)
Getzen Eterna 900 (dated 1977)
Couesnon flugehorn (around 1940)
Olds Ambassador cornet (dated 1954) |
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oxleyk Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:56 am Post subject: |
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PaoloOneArm wrote: | Hi guys
I'm interested in Edwards X-13. In Italy Edwards is not a common trumpet. Maybe for the price, mybe for not very well marketing action of the dealer... I don't know. Just one week ago I saw a X-13 on sale in a FB group. I took some info and from what I also read here it is a great instrument. I know Edwards and Getzen are in some way "correlated" let's say. Edwards mechanics come from Getzen. I have a '70 Getzen Eterna and I love it: large bore, less that 1000 grams, easy to play, great valves.
I'm asking a favor: one of you guys, who has the X-13, can let me know the weight in grams? As I'm a one arm player, the weight is the feature number 1 (unfortunately). You said it is light. But if you can weight it for me, it could be great
A huge thank you
Paolo |
Yes, Edwards is the luxury car division of Getzen and their instruments are made in the Getzen facility. I suggest sending them email with your questions. They're pretty good about responding. |
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shofarguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Posts: 7012 Location: AZ
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Paolo,
I cannot weigh an X-13, but I can tell you that it is comparable to or even lighter than the Burbank 6X-CG I spent time with after the 2016 ITG show. The CG is a super light horn, lighter than all other trumpets I've played. The X-13 is of similar weight and may be even lighter.
I do not think you will find any trumpets that are as light as these two. None will be lighter. _________________ Brian A. Douglas
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper
There is one reason that I practice: to be ready at the downbeat when the final trumpet sounds. |
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homebilly Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Dec 2010 Posts: 2197 Location: Venice, CA & Paris, France
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:01 am Post subject: |
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I played one in sacramento on Tuesday and was impressed!
I liked the wide wrap ala constellation and the blow was great!
I didn't strike me as light or heavy and definitely not lighter than
my CG Benge. it did blow very open with a big core. it feels short in the
hand and the sound really close as it is a shorty.
valves felt great. finish looked good
this one was silver with a 5 1/4" bell I think
too rich for my blood though..............
excellent horn in all respects _________________ ron meza (deadbeat jazz musician) & (TH 5 post ghost neighborhood watch ringleader)
waiting for Fed-Ex to deliver a $50 trumpet to my door. shipping was prepaid by seller of course!
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3832 Location: Greece
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Let's talk about the Edwards X-13 trumpet |
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Locutus2k wrote: | Lot of hype for the Edwards X-13 trumpet but very little first hand experience.
This trumpet looks very interesting, i would like to read some review / impressions on how it plays, strong points, weak etc. from owners or users who had a chance to play it. |
I am sure that is the perfect horn for you Louigi why don't you sell to me the Lawler LE and get it
Regards _________________ Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2015
Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
Getzen eterna 910 C
Getzen eterna 850 cornet
Selmer Paris 3 valve picc
Yamaha 731 flugel
Carol mini pocket
Reeves/Purviance mpcs |
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PaoloOneArm Regular Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 12 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanx a lot Brian
I played for a some months a Benge 2X MLP. Very easy to play, very light horn. I liked it a lot. So if the Edwards gas more or less the same weight, it can be played with one hand with no problem
The price is a little bit high. But I hope to have the possibility of testing one.
Thanx to you all guys
Paolo _________________ Bach72* customized (Amado, rings, golden part)
Getzen Eterna 900 (dated 1977)
Couesnon flugehorn (around 1940)
Olds Ambassador cornet (dated 1954) |
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vwag Veteran Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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I’d love to try that horn. What would you compare it to? How short is it? |
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shofarguy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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vwag wrote: | I’d love to try that horn. What would you compare it to? How short is it? |
It's coming up on 2 years since I played the X-13. What I do remember is that it did some things that should not have been possible. What do I mean? Over the past 10+ years of playing different trumpets it's become evident that certain design characteristics bring specific results with them.
For instance heavy materials bring a solid core sound that tends to resonate well and project. But the X-13 had the sound of a much heavier trumpet without the weight. On the other hand, I remember it feeling very light in my hand, which would generally mean the trumpet would not be acoustically as stable as a heavier horn. Not so with the X-13. However, it did respond like a lightweight horn, meaning very quickly! So, with this Edwards, a player gets the agility of a lightweight trumpet with the stability, resonance and projection of a heavier trumpet. Very unique sensation. _________________ Brian A. Douglas
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Bb Trumpet in copper
Flip Oakes Wild Thing Flugelhorn in copper
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PaoloOneArm Regular Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 12 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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I definitely wanna try a way to test it
Thanx a lot for the tech info you gave me/us in the group
Paolo _________________ Bach72* customized (Amado, rings, golden part)
Getzen Eterna 900 (dated 1977)
Couesnon flugehorn (around 1940)
Olds Ambassador cornet (dated 1954) |
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jonlinley Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Hey all! The X13 is really gaining traction on the market and hearing all the feedback from everyone is always nice! To clarify, the X13 is the lightest trumpet that Getzen/Edwards makes, 989 grams without a mouthpiece.
Paolo, send me an email and we can get you in contact with our dealer in Italy.
trumpets@edwards-instruments.com
I will see you all at ITG! _________________ Brass Specialist at Edwards Instruments |
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vwag Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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It really looks amazing, on the list to try! |
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