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trumpet56 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:53 pm Post subject: What brass instrument did you start on? |
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There are many posts discussing the size and specifications of trumpet and cornet mouthpieces'. I wonder if it relates to the instrument that we started learning on. I started playing tenor/alto horn at the age of 7, the mouthpiece on the horn was wider in diameter than the cornet or trumpet and had a deeper cup. The mouthpiece shank although shorter than the trumpet shank is the same width. I have always done best on the bigger trumpet and cornet mouthpieces although I use smaller mouthpieces on the eb/d and piccolo trumpets.
How has your first mouthpiece effected your current mouthpiece choice? |
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Steve A Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 1799 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think it had much if anything to do with my current mouthpiece choice (Wedge 1.25 C), but for what it's worth, I started on tuba at 10, changed to baritone at 11, then trumpet at 12, and stuck with it. |
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trumpet56 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Steve A wrote: | I don't think it had much if anything to do with my current mouthpiece choice (Wedge 1.25 C), but for what it's worth, I started on tuba at 10, changed to baritone at 11, then trumpet at 12, and stuck with it. |
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HERMOKIWI Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I started on a cornet my father bought at a garage sale. To answer your question, I don't know what mouthpiece I started on (it was the mouthpiece that just came with the cornet) and it hasn't affected my choice of mouthpiece today in any way. _________________ HERMOKIWI |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 8965 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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None.
I have no idea what I started on. After playing for four years on that mouthpiece, when I was in tenth grade, my new trumpet teacher suggested a Schilke H (#11 now) and the only reason I know what that was is because I still have it. So I went from that through high school and part of college then switched to a Purviance 4*D4. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Getzen Capri Cornet
Adams F-1 Flghn
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pinstriper Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2013 Posts: 340 Location: Portlandia, OR
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Olds Ultratone valve/rotor soprano bugle and an Olds 3 trumpet mouthpiece. _________________ ~'77 DEG Dynasty II Soprano Bugle in G
'13 Chinese POS "Hawk" branded Flugel
'59 Olds Ambassador Cornet
'51 Olds Super
'69 Olds Studio
'40 Olds Special Cornet, Military Issued |
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8331 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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I started on a Yamaha 2310 cornet. I used a Bach 7C.
The open blowing nature of the Yamaha cornet may play a part in why I like open free-blowing horns.
I don't the the use of the 7C really affected my taste in mouthpieces (which range from a bored out Bach 1C to a variety of 3C-ish to 5C sizes. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
Selmer Radial Bb Trumpet
Yamaha 6335S Bb Trumpet
Besson 709 Bb Trumpet
Bach 184L Bb Cornet
Yamaha 731 Bb Flugelhorn |
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burnhamd Regular Member
Joined: 30 Sep 2016 Posts: 71 Location: Greenfield, TN.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:43 pm Post subject: Getzen |
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Getzen Capri with a 7C. _________________ Callet Jazz Gen. II www.callet.com
Getzen Eterna Bobby Herriot Model
MF Holton LT-302
MF Holton LT-306
MF Holton ST-307
Cheap Flugel
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chef8489 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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I started on a King 600 in 2nd or 3rd grade back in the 80s. Started on a 7c then moved to a 5b a few years later then a 3b and then a 1.5b. In High School they wanbted us to have a cornet as well so I got a Bach Cornet, but did not keep it too long and went back to my King trumpet till I started playing for the Phil Harmonic and they provided a C bach c trumpet for me to play. After I joined the army I traded my King for a Silver Flair as I kept playing till I went into special forces and I was gone all the time.
Here it is 20 years later and I have started playing again and with a Silver Flair again and a 1.5b and a 3b megatone. |
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GordonH Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2893 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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French Horn, but I switched to Euphonium and from that to Trumpet. _________________ Bb - Scherzer 8218W, Schilke S22, Bach 43, Selmer 19A Balanced
Pic - Weril
Flugel - Courtois 154
Cornet - Geneva Heritage, Conn 28A
Mouthpieces - Monette 1-5 rims and similar.
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Seymor B Fudd Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Oct 2015 Posts: 1459 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 3:30 am Post subject: Re: What brass instrument did you start on? |
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trumpet56 wrote: | There are many posts discussing the size and specifications of trumpet and cornet mouthpieces'. I wonder if it relates to the instrument that we started learning on. I started playing tenor/alto horn at the age of 7, the mouthpiece on the horn was wider in diameter than the cornet or trumpet and had a deeper cup. The mouthpiece shank although shorter than the trumpet shank is the same width. I have always done best on the bigger trumpet and cornet mouthpieces although I use smaller mouthpieces on the eb/d and piccolo trumpets.
How has your first mouthpiece effected your current mouthpiece choice? |
Like you I started on a alto horn, brassband style. Mouthpiece probably some Boosey&Hawkes contraption. Then switched to a Czechian cornet, probably the mouthpiece that belonged to this horn. Later on Salvation Army nr 1 which I eventually found too small in diameter, besides that rather wide flat rim. What a liberation when I found the Bach 1 1/4.....
If I had been clever enough to take lessons at the time I probably would have been using this Bach up to this date.... but but....
However today very satisfied with the Wick Ultra, utterly different from every other piece I´ve tested.....made possible by the BE.
So in my case no effect. Also initially no influence from "no teacher"..
That had to wait another 50 years. _________________ Cornets:
Getzen Custom Series Schilke 143D3/ DW Ultra 1,5 C
Getzen 300 series
Yamaha YCRD2330II
Yamaha YCR6330II
Getzen Eterna Eb
Trumpets:
Yamaha 6335 RC Schilke 14B
King Super 20 Symphony DB (1970)
Selmer Eb/D trumpet (1974) |
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BobD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 1251 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Can’t believe that no one started on an Olds Ambassador. I started on an Ambassador with a Bach 7C. Then got braces a few months after then after 3 years got braces off , couldnt play and switched to tenor sax for the remainder of my school years. _________________ Adams/ACB collaborative
Yamaha Shew Jazz and Bach 7C |
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ButchA Veteran Member
Joined: 09 Dec 2008 Posts: 139 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:08 am Post subject: |
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I started on my '67 Holton Collegiate in grade school, then got shifted to french horn, back to trumpet, to baritone, doubled on trombone, and finally back to trumpet. _________________ 1967 Holton Collegiate Trumpet --> my grade school band trumpet. I just can't part with it!
1975 Olds Ambassador Cornet --> my new/used eBay special. Sounds great!
2018 Regiment WI-800 Bugle --> my inexpensive Chinese made bugle from Amazon. |
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Craig Swartz Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 7769 Location: Des Moines, IA area
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 5:29 am Post subject: |
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I started on a Conn Director cornet w/Conn 4 mouthpiece. Over the 40 years I taught instrumental music I played all the brass instruments with students in lessons, as well as all of the woodwinds with the exception of bassoon (didn't have an extra) and the percussion instruments as well. No negative affects, not even on sax... |
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 9343 Location: Heart of Dixie
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Started on a King Cleveland cornet back in the mid 1960s. If I remember correctly, it came with a King MC mouthpiece, which was pretty small and shallow. I play on a 3-size mouthpiece today. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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trumphat Veteran Member
Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 214 Location: Hamburg,NY
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:27 am Post subject: |
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American Standard cornet made by H N White (King) and a Mt. Vernon Bach 7BW cornet mpc back in 1959. Played a lot of horns and mouthpieces over the last 60 years. My main mpc on trumpet is a NY Bach 7BW. Change is not always better! |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Posts: 8965 Location: Hawai`i - Texas
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:32 am Post subject: |
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I reread your post and even though you end by asking about a first mouthpiece (mpc) specifically, you also ask in your text about relationship between mpc/horn.
So riffing on that theme, I went from my first cornet, an Austrian horn hand-me-down, make unknown, to another cornet, also didn't pay attention to the brand, but the point is, I changed horns but used the same mpc.
Likewise, when I changed trumpets in college, I switched from a Connstellation to a Getzen Severinsen but kept the same mpc (Schilke H). Then, while still on the Severinsen, I went from the Schilke H to a Purviance 4*D4.
Hope this adds to your answer. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Getzen Capri Cornet
Adams F-1 Flghn |
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cbtj51 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:03 am Post subject: |
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My Dad bought my first Trumpet from a Pawn Shop back in the late 50s just in case Trumpet was just a fad for me. It was a mostly raw brass Olds Mendez with a Mt. Vernon 7C. What a horn to start on!!! I played Euphonium in Junior High and High School and Solo Soprano in Drum and Bugle Corps on Getzen and Olds G Bugles during the same period with a Jetone Severinsen, then a J Parduba Double Cup Harry James Model. I switched back to Trumpet as my main instrument during my Freshman year in college and bought my first new horn, a 1971 very early LA Benge and made a lifelong switch to Bob Reeves 41S695 (then 1S695)mouthpieces. I still play that old Benge often and never venture away from Reeves 41 Rims, though I use many different Reeves bottoms depending on horn and musical requirements. Wish I still had that Olds Mendez. Hurricane Betsy took it away three days before my 14th Birthday in 1965. I want another one before I transition to my final Trumpet gig! _________________ '71 LA Benge 5X Bb
'72 LA Benge D/Eb
'76 Bach CL 229/25A C
‘92 Bach 37 Bb
'98 Getzen 895S Flugelhorn
'00 Bach 184 Cornet
'02 Yamaha 8335RGS
'16 Bach NY 7
'16 XO 1700RS Piccolo
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nieuwguyski Heavyweight Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 2335 Location: Santa Cruz County, CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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I started on trombone and played trombone, euphonium, and tuba in college.
I also started trying to double on trumpet in college and gravitated to the largest mouthpieces I could get my hands on -- a Bach 1 followed by a Schilke 24. I spent the next 15 years gradually downsizing, ending up on 3C-ish diameters (a Reeves 43W rim, usually). I've tried going smaller, but always ended up back on the Reeves. _________________ J. Notso Nieuwguyski |
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Jerry Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Trumpet in 7th grade.
Some medium-largish generic mouthpiece that a salesman in Sam Ash recommended for a beginner. When I started taking lessons a month or so later, my teacher said the mouthpiece was fine. |
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