wireless mic and sound reflective

xtremetrumpeter

Hi everyone! I'm going to be starting a gig for an Elvis show called "Burn'n Love" on Maui. I was told I would need some type of wireless mic. I was wondering what would you guys recommend and what other gear would I need?

http://www.shure.com/americas/products/wireless-systems/pgxd-systems/pgxd14-beta98h

Also, I saw this sound reflector thing that you would attach to your bell so that you could hear yourself which I would definitely need...I think. Would I need something like this?

https://www.brass-innovations-germany.de/en-brass-parts-sonic-reflector-playing-the-trumpet.asp

Thanks!
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trickg · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:51 pm Post subject:

I've used a wireless clip-on Shure Beta 98 for years - it's a great mic for that application.

Regarding the sound reflector, IMO you shouldn't need it - either you'll have a wedge monitor that can be dialed up enough to where you can hear yourself, or you'll have in-ears monitors, but either way, live sound has evolved and advanced quite a lot in the last 15 years or so to the point where for groups using in-ears, often times you can connect to the sound board via Wi-Fi, and control your own personal in-ears mix from an app on your phone.

The last time I used a sound reflector was around 2012 when I did a Ska band thing in a church, (of all places) they had me on an SM57 mic, and I didn't have my own in-ears mix or floor monitor. That one is a simple one that I made from Lexan, a standard hole saw, and a rubber grommet.
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xtremetrumpeter · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:59 pm Post subject:

cheiden · Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:01 pm Post subject:

I've read that reflectors can really mess up the recording engineer and your sound. Should probably only be used when there's no other option. If you have a pro gig that requires a wireless mic I'd hope that they would have reasonable monitor options.

I really like my AMT Roam 1 wireless rig but I understand that they don't sell that model anymore. It was limited to a single-frequency Samson transmitter, though it has never given me or the sound engineers any trouble. The new systems I understand are far superior (and a good bit more costly).
https://appliedmicrophoneshop.com/t/microphone--wireless-packages-for-trumpet
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Brad361 · Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 5:57 pm Post subject:

mm55 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 01 Jul 2013 Posts: 1412

Putting a reflective surface so close to a directional microphone can wreak havoc with the microphone's pickup pattern, creating a much higher likelihood of howling feedback. Putting a reflective surface so close to any microphone also seriously changes the frequency response.

Bad idea all around.
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xtremetrumpeter · Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:31 am Post subject:

So, I ended up ordering a Shure BLX4R Single Channel, Rack mount receiver, BLX1 Bodypack Transmitter and a WB98H/C Instrument mic from Amazon...a little cheaper than buying it through the Shure site.
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xtremetrumpeter · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:12 am Post subject:

So I got the mic, the body pack and the receiver. I understand how to setup the mic and bodypack, but I'm confused about the receiver. Is it really something I need? Do I give it to the sound guy to plug into his board? Also, if I have gigs with different people do I have to unplug the receiver and give it to the next sound guy to plug into their board? Sorry..newbie to all of this.

Thanks!
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Don Herman rev2 · Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:56 am Post subject:

It is a wireless mic. The microphone's sound goes into the transmitter in the body pack, is transmitted over the air to the receiver, which converts it back to a signal for the sound system.

Non-wireless: Mic --> cable --> sound system input
Wireless: Mic --> body pack --> radio signal --> receiver --> sound system input

HTH - Don
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