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ResilienceOils Regular Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2018 Posts: 11 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:13 pm Post subject: Resilience Oils |
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Hello All,
I have been working on developing a new oil for the past year or so. It first came about by the need for designing a stainless steel valve oil with all the issues in manufacturing with stainless valves.
We had to start from scratch as there isn't anything on the market that stops or slows down chromium breakdown, etc...
Right now I am offering a mts grease, kick slide gel and valve oil.
In our trials and research we found ways to stop full synthetics from gelling up and as of right now the feedback has been great.
Here is the website - http://www.resilienceoils.com and the facebook is
https://www.facebook.com/resilienceoils/
The synthetics are full PAO based and do not have silicone as it is one of the issues with the gelling and mixing...also its lubricity is very low.
There is a lot of info on the website and if you have any questions please email me! If you have had valve issues in the past or are looking for new high end oils that are different from anything else. Check it out! |
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ResilienceOils Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you everyone who has ordered some oils to try out! Any feedback is much appreciated as I believe we are offering products like never before and want to make sure they are the best.Cheers! |
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Moderators TH Moderator Group
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:12 am Post subject: |
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A note to members:
We have allowed and will continue to allow product announcements from manufacturers, within reasonable limits. |
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TrentAustin Heavyweight Member
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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What is kick gel?
thanks _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
www.jazzscales.org
The Coady Strengthening Exercises: http://coady.coolwarm.com |
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TrentAustin Heavyweight Member
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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TrentAustin wrote: | jetjaguar wrote: | What is kick gel?
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Slide oil for the ones you "kick" out (1st/3rd).
I think they also make Main Tuning slide grease as well. |
Many thanks. _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
www.jazzscales.org
The Coady Strengthening Exercises: http://coady.coolwarm.com |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 7080 Location: Houston, TX.
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Moderators wrote: | A note to members:
We have allowed and will continue to allow product announcements from manufacturers, within reasonable limits. |
Ok, mea culpa.
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:58 am Post subject: |
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jetjaguar wrote: | TrentAustin wrote: | jetjaguar wrote: | What is kick gel?
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Slide oil for the ones you "kick" out (1st/3rd).
I think they also make Main Tuning slide grease as well. |
Many thanks. |
BTW and off-topic, what do youse guys recommend to keep a 3rd valve trigger from flying out? I have a Courtois Evo IV and it has a plastic stop that's supposed catch the bead between the shiny part and the inside part of the slide, but the slide can just surge past it when I'm doing hella triggering. The slide has come out twice and hit the floor and needs to be repaired each time. Or course I'm never on a carpeted floor, or leaning over a sofa when it happens. I've seen string tied around the valve casings, but that will surely not last. Zap straps would be ungainly and ugly. Any other suggestions?
Thanks _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
www.jazzscales.org
The Coady Strengthening Exercises: http://coady.coolwarm.com |
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dstpt Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:35 am Post subject: |
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jetjaguar wrote: | BTW and off-topic, what do youse guys recommend to keep a 3rd valve trigger from flying out? I have a Courtois Evo IV and it has a plastic stop that's supposed catch the bead between the shiny part and the inside part of the slide, but the slide can just surge past it when I'm doing hella triggering. The slide has come out twice and hit the floor and needs to be repaired each time. Or course I'm never on a carpeted floor, or leaning over a sofa when it happens. I've seen string tied around the valve casings, but that will surely not last. Zap straps would be ungainly and ugly. Any other suggestions?
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Options for this issue were discussed earlier this month in this thread...
https://www.trumpetherald.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1526765 |
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Andy Del Heavyweight Member
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 2662 Location: sunny Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Or you try to be careful... it usually works. I use string or a cloth covered hair elastic so slides don't drop off when on a stand. _________________ so many horns, so few good notes... |
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RandyTX Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 5299 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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The one horn I have with stainless valves probably has the smoothest, most reliable valve action of any horn I own. I had no idea 'special' oil for stainless was a thing.
They seem just about bulletproof as is.
I'd like to hear more about this potential breakdown problem. _________________ "Music is like candy, you throw the (w)rappers away." |
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djpearlman Veteran Member
Joined: 30 Aug 2002 Posts: 461 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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I look forward to this thread getting back on track, I hope, with Trent Austin and others who try the new oil commenting on how it works.... _________________ Dan Pearlman
Santa Fe, NM
- Monette Cornette
- Andalusia Cornet
- Carolbrass Pocket Trumpet
- Monette mouthpieces
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NafoVeXrsRm-fOhKaIpnA |
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ResilienceOils Regular Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2018 Posts: 11 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:50 am Post subject: |
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RandyTX wrote: | The one horn I have with stainless valves probably has the smoothest, most reliable valve action of any horn I own. I had no idea 'special' oil for stainless was a thing.
They seem just about bulletproof as is.
I'd like to hear more about this potential breakdown problem. |
Stainless steel, like other metals have a process for protection. Brass naturally oxidizes which is a way for it to naturally protect itself. Stainless steel has a chromium exterior that keeps it from leaching.
When you use acids on stainless - like a chem clean and acids you put into the instrument through your saliva it breaks this layer down. Lapping valves or not having oil on the valves at all times that protects against the breakdown will all lead to this and will need to go through "passivization"
Lower qualities of stainless which are used in the music industry have a higher susceptibility to this breakdown. If you don't have issues with this I would guess that you have a higher quality stainless steel and haven't had this process occur.
That is why I designed this oil in the first place...to stop oxidation and the break down of the metals while the instrument is in use. Other companies in different industries like automotive and restaurant tables have done similar things.
Furthermore, working with PAO synthetics they last much longer and don't change in temperature and humidity like other greases and oils so they stabilize much better
I had randomly had similar issues in the ultrasonic industry and worked with the company in China to change the metal types so we didn't have the breakdown issues in the future.
You are lucky to not have problems, but I don't know of an instrument manufacturer that makes horns over seas that doesn't have issues with their stainless steel, Especially in low end instruments.
If you would like me to clarify anything please let me know.
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RandyTX Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Posts: 5299 Location: Central Texas
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Interesting, certainly gives me one more thing to keep an eye out for. Thank you for the information. _________________ "Music is like candy, you throw the (w)rappers away." |
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 843 Location: Waikiki, Hawaii
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Just got my shipment.
1). Fast shipping.
2). Had a quick question, sent an email, got a quick response.
3). So far, this stuff is good to go! I will buy more when I run out. _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
Greg Black MPs |
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trumpaholic Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1501 Location: Lindsay Ontario Canada
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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The tuning slide oil is simply the best I have ever used in over 60 years of playing. The valve oil is better than what I have used for years. When I have had a few weeks of trial, I will report back on this amazing product, interested in longevity and on different horns as well. Right now have it in my 71 Strad and it likes it very much.
Trump _________________ Have horn, will travel! |
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theslawdawg Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 843 Location: Waikiki, Hawaii
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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trumpaholic wrote: | The tuning slide oil is simply the best I have ever used in over 60 years of playing. The valve oil is better than what I have used for years. When I have had a few weeks of trial, I will report back on this amazing product, interested in longevity and on different horns as well. Right now have it in my 71 Strad and it likes it very much.
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Forgot about the tuning slide oil...that’s good to go as well. _________________ My go-to Trumpet and Flugel: Thane.
Greg Black MPs |
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ResilienceOils Regular Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2018 Posts: 11 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for your kind words! I am very happy you like it. |
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Uberopa Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Tried to order but no apparent shipping to Canada or anywhere other than the land of the free. |
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