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gcorder
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 Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:14 am Post subject: jupiter flugelhorn mouthpiece taper |
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I'm getting contradictory mouthpiece taper information for my Jupiter 846R Flugelhorn. (If it matters, the horn's serial number starts with an H, which suggests a 2006 horn.)
Mouthpieceexpress.com and most of the online forums/community claim it is a large (standard) taper.
However, Bob Reeves claims it is a small (bach) taper. In addition, I emailed Jupiter and the responding agent claimed, "It replicates a Bach and is a Morse Taper".
Should I trust Jupiter or the community?
Does anyone have a Jupiter 846?
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Richard III
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Large Morse taper is what you want. I used to have that model too. Nice flugel for less money.
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gcorder
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I just got this email from Jupiter:
We have just the Number 1 Morse taper. It is consider the large taper. Depending on what you have in a Bach you would call it standard but it is smaller. Ours is the standard.
http://www.mouthpieceexpress.com/specshub/flugeltapers.html
Thanks for playing Jupiter!
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I have an 846R and is uses the large Morse taper which is also used on my Yamaha Shew flugelhorn.
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gcorder
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MouthExpress said its definitely a large taper. (Not a Bach taper.)
I bought a Curry 3FLD with large taper from MouthExpress. We'll see how it goes when it arrives.
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Same here. My son has an 846RL, which takes a large taper mouthpiece.
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| gcorder wrote: | I just got this email from Jupiter:
We have just the Number 1 Morse taper. It is consider the large taper. Depending on what you have in a Bach you would call it standard but it is smaller. Ours is the standard.
http://www.mouthpieceexpress.com/specshub/flugeltapers.html
Thanks for playing Jupiter! |
Clear as mud. You'd think that they'd been asked this enough times that they'd have a prepared, coherent response.
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| gcorder wrote: | MouthExpress said its definitely a large taper. (Not a Bach taper.)
I bought a Curry 3FLD with large taper from MouthExpress. We'll see how it goes when it arrives. |
I have one of those Flugelhorns. The 'large morse' taper has been called a 'Yamaha taper'.
The mouthpiece you want is a 3FLD-Y - Mouthpiece Express probably got it right if you told them it was for a Jupiter.
It's sad when one gets better info on a horn from an on-line mouthpiece store than from the maker. I've had similarly poor results from communications with Jupiter.
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gcorder
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:41 pm Post subject: mpc arrived |
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The mouthpiece arrived today and it sounds great!
The large taper fits well with my Jupiter 846R Flugelhorn.
I ordered the Curry 3FLD. The D refers to the deep cup. It is actually more of a V cup and resembles a French horn cup. The sound is very rich. I can usually squeak out a double G on tmpt bach 3c mpc. I cannot play very high on this flugel V cup, but that is to be expected.
I don't play jazz very often. My quintet uses flugelhorn on classical and marches when we want a mellow and dark sound. This mpc will be great.
Btw, I just got my Jupiter 846R from ebay. Physically, the horn is in great shape. It has a 3rd valve slide trigger, which it needs. My only complaint is that the low C is horribly flat and the tuning slide is all the way in. I guess this is why people are "tweaking" horns.
Thanks for your feedback!
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