Carnival on Cornet?

AJ26 · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:08 am Post subject: Carnival on Cornet?

I'm going to be playing Carnival of Venice for a HS concert and I wasn't wondering if the sound would change enough to make it worth renting a cornet

Dieter Z · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:51 am Post subject:

Play it on the instrument you are familiar with and used to.
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Dayton · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:05 am Post subject:

What does your teacher think? The cornet will sound different than the trumpet, but it will take some time to become familiar with the cornet and a cornet mouthpiece.

Thus, I'd suggest that renting a cornet for the performance would only make sense if you could rent it for several weeks -- long enough to extensively practice and rehearse with it.

Also, you'd want to make sure that the cornet you rent is a quality instrument. If it is a student-model cornet, for example, you might find that intonation is a challenge, and you'd be (much) better off sticking with your trumpet. [There are some fine student model cornets from Getzen and Yamaha, but make sure you know what you are renting....]

Good luck!

RandyTX · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:29 am Post subject:

I'd also worry that you might have difficulty renting a quality cornet, and let's face, very good valve action is required for this, not to mention finding a cornet mouthpiece that suits you and the horn well.

If you can do all those, far enough of head of time to get used to playing it, it might be worth it. The safe money is playing it on what you're already comfortable with.
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cheiden · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:20 am Post subject:

The sound difference won't make a difference for most considerations. And there's no way a short rental will give you adequate time to acclimate to the instrument.
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oxleyk · Heavyweight Member Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 4180

If this high school student can play all variations of Carnival of Venice well enough to perform it I doubt a switch to cornet will be a problem.

Please post a video of your performance when you have one.

TKSop · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:47 am Post subject:

I'd agree with the guys saying not to worry about it.

If we were talking about top professional players I'd much rather see it done on cornet, but for your needs it really shouldn't matter very much - you're best off performing it on familiar and comfortable gear.

I remember playing Rimmer's version (slightly harder than Arban's) at high school - at the time I was proud of it, but I'm pretty sure I'd be able to pick all kinds of faults with it at the level I'm playing at these days... Sure, I'd say then that I was playing it, but I certainly wouldn't have owned it to the extent that I could swap instruments and mouthpieces and be unaffected.

snichols · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:03 am Post subject:

Yep, like others have said - it doesn't really matter. I'm sure I'm not alone that I actually prefer hearing it on trumpet...

Tpt_Guy · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:07 am Post subject:

The original post doesn't state, so it seems most people are assuming the OP is playing Arban's version.

There are several:

Arban
Clarke
Staigers
Rimmer

...that I know of. Which version are you playing?
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TKSop · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:12 am Post subject:

NevadaBigHorn · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:24 am Post subject:

Ditto Dieter

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snichols · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:36 am Post subject:

Turkle · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:38 am Post subject:

When I was in High School I performed it on my Bach 25 trumpet.

The piece is so flashy, if you play it well no one will notice what instrument you used - they'll be on their feet cheering! That was my experience, anyway!

Have fun!
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dstdenis · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:03 pm Post subject:

I love cornets, and I prefer to hear this piece played on one, but I don't think it would be worth the time, effort and expense to find a good cornet, then find a mouthpiece well-suited to you and the instrument, then practice with it enough to become well-acclimated. All that, just to get where you are right now with your trumpet.

Instead, invest that time practicing the piece on the trumpet you have.
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AJ26 · Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:33 pm Post subject:

I am playng Arban's in late May, I'll get a recording as soon as I clean up some of the tempo (I like to swing var 3) but it's not perfect by a long shot. Currently I'm playing playing on student model YTR2330 due to money issues and am considering playing on a cornet since I could rent something worth vastly more than my trumpet that would probably play better aswell. Thanks for all the nice words everybody

zaferis · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:26 am Post subject:

Bill Dishman · Heavyweight Member Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 1174

While I think the cornet is more suited to playing this type of literature, I would suggest doing it on your main instrument.

The cornet is a different animal than a trumpet and will respond differently than the trumpet. Do it on what you are most comfortable with.

Renting a quality cornet will most certainly be a problem as well.

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kehaulani · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:25 am Post subject:

Love this version. You might too. Musical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGv5kX7XyS0
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Crazy Finn · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:40 pm Post subject:

Don Herman rev2 · Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:30 am Post subject:

Always this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g8qRF8Eogs

It's hard enough in any form to play well without introducing a new horn into the process. Use what ya' got.
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