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Bill Dishman
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 Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:21 pm Post subject: C trumpet for lead sheets in concert pitch |
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I would recommend getting a C trumpet or C cornet. Adjusting from a Bb horn just takes a little time. Put the Bb away and play the C all the time for a while.
When I read concert pitch "fake books" I use my C to do what you are suggesting.
Bb "fake books" I use the Bb horn.
Just like NIKE says ..."Just do it!"
Bill Dishman
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oljackboy
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Your sound is more important than the temporary inconvenience of learning how to read concert lead sheets on a Bb trumpet. Most jazz players become skilled at reading concert lead sheets and chord changes out of constant exposure to them.
I personally do not like C trumpets. They have always felt stuffy to me, and it is nearly impossible for me to sound the way I want to. I am sure that more accomplished players can sound good playing jazz on C trumpets - it's just that I've never heard anybody do it. |
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OldSchoolEuph
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Being a euphonium player, I actually knew Bb fairly well once upon a time, but by the time I picked up a trumpet, I was using it for church work, and it had been many years since I had looked at Bb. So, I just adapted to trumpet playing a Bb but reading C.
If the parts you read are going to be in C, this works well - though if on rare occasions you have to read Bb, it can tend to mess you up a bit. I have toyed with having Robb Stewart build me an Ab slide set for my Bach (allows reading a Bb part with C fingerings), but so far have refrained from such indulgence of my poor transposition skills.
As for "breaking your ear". Yes, for someone who has perfect pitch, transposed parts can be quite disconcerting, but Bb to C is fairly close. When I play on a D trumpet - it really messes with me.
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sioul
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for all your anwers !
The complementary points of view are very interesting , and it will help me to find my way .
Cheers !
Louis
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I'm just going to guess that it was a guitar player that said this.
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In france we have had quite a guitarist named Django , but he didn't read music and even didn't read at all  |
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l'andorrano
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Bonjour Louis. You will see, it quickly becomes second nature to read a score written in concert pitch and say the names transposed to the trumpet.
'Round Midnight is written si-mi-fa-si-sol; you'll naturally say do-fa-sol-do-la and mentally add two sharps to the signature. It is surprisingly easy to develop this skill ... and infinitely useful.
S'exprimer en plusieurs langues est toujours une richesse, faut pas s'en priver ! |
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