Stravinsky-"A Solder's Tale"

Bachatit · Regular Member Joined: 19 Dec 2017 Posts: 57

Any tips on the articulation for the quintuplets in "The Royal March"? Also, B-flat cornet or C trumpet? Thanks

JoseLindE4 · Heavyweight Member Joined: 18 Apr 2003 Posts: 791

-I use double tonguing starting on the K for the tuplets so that they end on T.
-For the multiple tuplets in a row, I alternate K and T still, so Ktktk Tktkt Ktktkt T.
-C Trumpet
-After years of stressing about the awkward tonguing as an excerpt, when I finally got to perform it, the counting was the most stressful part.

Bachatit · Regular Member Joined: 19 Dec 2017 Posts: 57

Thanks, Best

Turkle · Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 9:48 am Post subject:

The first time I performed it, I slurred the first two notes in the quintuplet and triple-toungued the back three.

The next time I performed it, I quintuple-tongued it, starting on T, so mine was tktkt ktktk tktkt k. I very much preferred it this way.

Definitely C trumpet or a C cornet if you can locate one.

And as JoseLindE4 notes, there are some extremely tricky counting passages! My goodness.

Have fun with it, it's one of my all-time favorite pieces I've ever played!
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trompette229 · Veteran Member Joined: 21 Mar 2016 Posts: 203

As you can see there are many ways to approach this passage. I would recommend trying a mixed triple/double approach which is very standard on this one. ttk-tk ttk-tk

Bachatit · Regular Member Joined: 19 Dec 2017 Posts: 57

Thanks to all

tpt64 · Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 6:28 am Post subject:

I straight double tongue the entire quintuplet passage.

MalinTrumpet · Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:44 am Post subject:

Vacchiano said TTKTK.

LCM

MrClean · Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:46 am Post subject:

TKTKT TKTKT TKTKT
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mhenrikse · Veteran Member Joined: 21 Jul 2009 Posts: 162

Whats all the fuss? I heard a big time (I think) LA studio player slur it back in the day.

Ricetrpt · Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 5:01 pm Post subject:

cjl · Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 5:04 pm Post subject:

In the recording I have with Herseth and CSO players he slurs it. I was disappointed because I wanted to hear him tongue it. Up to the conductor, I guess.

Having never come close to performing this, only practicing it on my own, I was hesitant to post. But I found the way MrClean suggests to work the best for me.

— Joe

Nonsense Eliminator · Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 5:42 pm Post subject:

dr_trumpet · Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 5:56 pm Post subject:

dr_trumpet · Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Stravinsky-"A Solder's Tale"

trumpetpatrick · Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:16 am Post subject:

The suggestion my teacher gave me for this works really well for me, but might not for everyone. He double tongues the whole thing, but starts the first note of the first quintuplet with a K tongue, then the rest of the excerpt is KTKTK TKTKT KTKTK T with the first note after the quintuplets landing on a T. Hope this helps

kehaulani · Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Stravinsky-"A Solder's Tale"

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dr_trumpet · Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Stravinsky-"A Solder's Tale"

Gabrieli · Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:06 am Post subject:

David Mason (of Penny Lane fame) told me he once played it with Stravinsky conducting. He took a cornet and a trumpet to the first rehearsal (both of course in b flat) and asked Stravinsky, which he preferred. The reply:- " Use what ever you can play it best on; it just happened that the player I wrote it for liked playing the cornet"

dr_trumpet · Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:16 am Post subject: