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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 5:28 am    Post subject: Jazz Piano - Cliche song introductions Reply with quote

Hi, folks - wondering if you can help me out with something. I'm learning a little bit of jazz piano and I'm trying to learn about some cliche song intros.

Like, if I ask a pianist to just "play me a 4-bar intro" to whatever tune we're playing, what are some common chord progressions I'd hear? I know this obvious one (for a tune in C Major):

|: CMaj7 | C#dim | Dmin7 | G7 :|

Aside from the above turnaround, what are some other super-common and cliched piano intros to jazz tunes? What would I do for a tune that doesn't start on the I, like "Love is Here to Stay," which starts on the II7?

If any of you know a resource for this, I'd happily buy a method book - or maybe you know of a good blog post that runs this down.

Your help is greatly appreciated - thank you!!
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Often times the rhythm section for my combo will play the last 4 to 8 bars of a song for an intro. That's pretty common.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sthomas98 wrote:
Often times the rhythm section for my combo will play the last 4 to 8 bars of a song for an intro. That's pretty common.


Yes - we do this as well. Was thinking more along the lines of stock intros that might be separate from the tune itself, although perhaps these aren't as common as I am imagining? Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Longer than 4 bars, but:
IV IV- I V7/II II-7 V7 I (i bar each)

eg F F- C A7 Dm7 G7 I

This is often the last 8 bars of a tune anyway.

If you want a big show intro:

(Pedal over the 5th) I Idim IIm7 I (2 beats each chd) play 1x or 3x

Eg C/G Cdim/G Dm7/G I (try it with G as the top note of voicing and you'll hear it)
Finish it 2 bars before tune and do a Basie e f F# g in the bass

Just a couple of many options

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turkle wrote:
Yes - we do this as well. Was thinking more along the lines of stock intros that might be separate from the tune itself, although perhaps these aren't as common as I am imagining? Thanks

I play jazz piano, and perform regularly as a piano-bass duo.

As has already been suggested, the last 4 or 8 measures of a song, also the first 2 or 4 measures, are common intros.

Back to your specific clarification on intros that are separate from the tune itself ...

Vamp on the root chord ...
C6 - Cmaj7 - C6 - Cmaj7
Cm - Cm#7 - Cm7 - Cm#7
etc.

Vamp on the 5 chord ...
Dm7/G - G7

You already mentioned turnarounds ...
C - Am - Dm - G
C - Em - F - G
Em - Am - Dm - G
etc.

Something with a pedal tone.

Any of the stock endings might work as an intro ...
Duke Ellington ending
Count Basie ending
sharp 4 ending
etc.
https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Jazz_Endings_Common_Ways_to_Come_to_a_Conclusion

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Jazz Piano - Cliche song introductions Reply with quote

Turkle wrote:
What would I do for a tune that doesn't start on the I, like "Love is Here to Stay," which starts on the II7?

To answer this specific question about "Our Love Is Here To Say", you can vamp on a "hello dolly" ending. This is where you vamp on the first two of the last 4 measures of a song.

Assuming the key of F ...

| Am D7 | Gm C7 | Am D7 | Gm C7 | Am D7 | Gm C7 | F | F |

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, folks - precisely what I'm looking for. Any further suggestions appreciated. Just trying to get a bunch of options in the arsenal!
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