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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:05 am    Post subject: GR mouthpieces Reply with quote

Any feedback from GR players, what you like about them etc?

I know Louis Dowdeswell play's them on his lightweight Bach 43 and sounds fantastic, and so clean. Then again he's sound great on anything.

Any characteristic positive points to consider worth mentioning?

Hope to hear from some of you.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The response I get from a GR mouthpieces has been unmatched in my experience. That combined with the comfort of all of GR's rims is what convinced me to make the switch.

The consistency is another major factor. Say you settle on one rim size - different variations of cup depth feel the same on your lips, which is a huge plus.

And finally the core of the sound (overtones?) that they produce in front of the trumpet is better. I can't so much tell from behind the trumpet, but it's apparently noticeable by some of my colleagues. I made a brief switch to Bob Reeves mouthpieces (great mouthpieces also). On one of the first rehearsals with the Reeves a guy in the section said, "You sound different." I asked if it was good or bad, and he said, "Not bad, just 'different.'" I've done some comparisons since that time, and it's been agreed the GR sounds better. (Again, no knock to Bob Reeves - they make outstanding mouthpieces and some of the best players in the world play them.)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget to check out the Northern Brass mouthpieces that are made by GR
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mouthpieces are a very personal thing. I have had several GR mouthpieces and for me they just have a little too much resistance.

The trumpet mouthpieces I use have less resistances, respond faster and have more overtones and colour.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no better mouthpiece on the market. However, getting the proper fit is important. A great GR mouthpiece that doesn't properly fit both you and your horn will not necessarily be better for you than any other mouthpiece. I think that anyone who considers buying a GR needs to get together with either Gary Radtke himself or Alex Yates in Atlanta (who GR trained) to get a proper fit. Otherwise, it's a gamble just like buying any other mouthpiece.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dieter Z wrote:
Mouthpieces are a very personal thing. I have had several GR mouthpieces and for me they just have a little too much resistance.

The trumpet mouthpieces I use have less resistances, respond faster and have more overtones and colour.


I would say that the GR pieces you tried were not the proper fit for you and your instrument.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PH wrote:
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Mouthpieces are a very personal thing. I have had several GR mouthpieces and for me they just have a little too much resistance.

The trumpet mouthpieces I use have less resistances, respond faster and have more overtones and colour.


I would say that the GR pieces you tried were not the proper fit for you and your instrument.


They were recommended by a GR consultant.

Lie I said, it's about personal preference.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: GR mouthpieces Reply with quote

65strad wrote:
Any feedback from GR players, what you like about them etc?

Articulations. Articulations. Articulations.
No other mouthpiece brand I've ever played articulates as cleanly as GR.

When evaluating the sound, make sure you have someone listening on the other side of the bell. My (last) teacher commented that the GR mouthpieces I would play for him sounded very different when he was sitting next to me compared to when he got up and moved in front of me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is incredibly beautiful. I love the outer shape. Its silver with black leather interior. Has a great stereo system and will fly when you need it to. ... Like automobiles, there are many manufacturers and it is all an individual thing. Many of us play various Maynard Ferguson v cup mouthpieces which they do not produce; so, we play other brands such as Monette, James R New, Curry, Black, Patrick ad nauseum. What matters is what the mouthpiece and/ or trumpet does for YOU.

Arturo Sandoval, Allen Vizzutti, Wynton Marsalis, and numerous others dont play GR and they sound great.

See a Consultant ( if they will see you ) and try one.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:37 am    Post subject: GR Mouthpieces Reply with quote

I had a fitting session with Alexa Yates to select a mouthpiece. It was time and money well spent.

I would never have believed the impact of small changes in critical dimensions. Having a large selection to try while being supervised by someone who knows how to guide you is the key.

Randomly picking a mouthpiece is not likely to get the best one.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dieter Z wrote:
PH wrote:
Dieter Z wrote:
Mouthpieces are a very personal thing. I have had several GR mouthpieces and for me they just have a little too much resistance.

The trumpet mouthpieces I use have less resistances, respond faster and have more overtones and colour.


I would say that the GR pieces you tried were not the proper fit for you and your instrument.


They are recommended by a GR consultant.

Lie I said, it's about personal preference.


Not all GR consultants are equally skilled.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PH wrote:
Dieter Z wrote:
PH wrote:
Dieter Z wrote:
Mouthpieces are a very personal thing. I have had several GR mouthpieces and for me they just have a little too much resistance.

The trumpet mouthpieces I use have less resistances, respond faster and have more overtones and colour.


I would say that the GR pieces you tried were not the proper fit for you and your instrument.


They are recommended by a GR consultant.

Lie I said, it's about personal preference.


Not all GR consultants are equally skilled.


I think Brian Sciver is more then qualified.

I do believe that GR mouthpieces are very good mouthpieces.

As I said in my first response: Mouthpieces are a very personal thing.

And in my case another brand just gives me the sound and response I am looking for and therefore works better "FOR ME".
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dieter Z wrote:
PH wrote:
Dieter Z wrote:
PH wrote:
Dieter Z wrote:
Mouthpieces are a very personal thing. I have had several GR mouthpieces and for me they just have a little too much resistance.

The trumpet mouthpieces I use have less resistances, respond faster and have more overtones and colour.


I would say that the GR pieces you tried were not the proper fit for you and your instrument.


They are recommended by a GR consultant.

Lie I said, it's about personal preference.


Not all GR consultants are equally skilled.


I think Brian Sciver is more then qualified.

I do believe that GR mouthpieces are very good mouthpieces.

As I said in my first response: Mouthpieces are a very personal thing.

And in my case another brand just gives me the sound and response I am looking for and therefore works better "FOR ME".


Just curious was this just a phone consultation with Brian or an actual play test fitting session with the master kit where the complete fitting session was done?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To clarify, there are a number of GR Consultants, all trained by Gary Radtke, and all very qualified.

http://www.grmouthpieces.com/gr-consultants.html

Seeing customers in person and going through the GR Playing Tests, really eliminates any question on which mouthpiece properly matches the player and horn. Unfortunately, we can not see all customers in person and that is where our questionnaire comes in, as well as assistance over emails, video chats, and phone. We have a very good track record at matching customers this way but it is not optimum. It will only really give you a starting point in most cases. I am sure that if I saw Dieter in person, we could fix the issue.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Brian for the offer.

However, there is no issues. I have a set up that works great for me.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure thing Dieter. The most important thing here is that you are happy. GR's may not be a match for everyone and that is a good thing as we are crazy busy as it is! Haha!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Brian. That was exactly my point.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. However, you never did have a face to face consultation. That is exactly my point.

There is only so much a consultant can do without seeing the customer play. We don't get to see how or if you engage your core, your set up sequence, your chops, your horn, etc.

By seeing you in person and testing you with our comprehensive set of tests and a complete test kit, we can determine the necessary rim contour, cup, and blow resistance to match the player and horn.

I have never had a customer in for a consultation and leave saying that his or her old mouthpiece was better. Never.

If we do not see you in person, we are just going by what you tell us which can be a very tricky situation.
All the best Dieter!

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Been playing GR since 4/17. I have better endurance and I recover from a hard day faster than any other mouthpiece I've used. It gives me an easier upper register. I "get the notes" with less manipulation. Seems to be well focused. The rim is neither comfortable nor uncomfortable. I'm not aware of the rim when I'm playing which is great! I had an email consultation with Brian Scriver and later an in-person consultation with Scott Apelgren in Melbourne, FL. Both were extremely helpful.
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I recommend the consultation if feasible.

I met with Brian and, oddly enough, the meeting confirmed that the piece I was already playing worked best for me.
If nothing else, it removes all the "what ifs?"

Do it.

I have had several people comment to me that I sound better on the GR than any of the others I had in my possession. It allows me to hear the resonance and core better as well.

B. Scriver wrote:
Right. However, you never did have a face to face consultation. That is exactly my point.

There is only so much a consultant can do without seeing the customer play. We don't get to see how or if you engage your core, your set up sequence, your chops, your horn, etc.

By seeing you in person and testing you with our comprehensive set of tests and a complete test kit, we can determine the necessary rim contour, cup, and blow resistance to match the player and horn.

I have never had a customer in for a consultation and leave saying that his or her old mouthpiece was better. Never.

If we do not see you in person, we are just going by what you tell us which can be a very tricky situation.
All the best Dieter!

Brian Scriver
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