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coraltrpt Regular Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:28 pm Post subject: Orchestral playing with a recording |
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Over the years, I've tried playing orchestral parts along with recordings using studio headphones. But, lately I've thought about speakers. (Note: I have to practice in a very small Wenger practice module)
Does anyone have any suggestions that might make the experience feel more lifelike? I might try setting up some cheap surround sound speakers in the module.
Just seeing if anyone has any better ideas. Thanks - might be a stupid question. |
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chrisf3000 Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 346 Location: Winnipeg, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:50 am Post subject: |
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I also love playing along with recordings. The problem I've found with most headphones is that they block out your sound. If you have studio headphones, they might make the orchestra sound great, but you're not getting a true representation of what you need to do to blend better.
Over the years, Apple has changed the design of their headphones but I still like the original iPod/iPhone in-ear buds. I know that they're not studio quality, but you can adjust them so that they sit only slightly half in and half out of your ears. That way you can get the "mix" that you like.
If you're set on using studio headphones, maybe someone else has some suggestions, but perhaps a small mixer box and a good microphone might do the trick. That way it wouldn't matter if you're in a Wenger or not, you could mix the sound as if you're in your own personal studio, adding reverb as necessary. |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:02 am Post subject: |
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What is your budget and what is your maximum space? _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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jcstites Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Get some open backed headphones as they allow you to hear your sound much more than regular headphones. I suggest Grado SR60i as a starting point or any of the more expensive models. Sennheiser also makes some open backed headphones that sound great. To get speakers that will compare in sound quality will cost much more than quality open backed headphones. I have a set of Paradigm towers and a Marantz amplifier that sounds great for playing along with recordings, but often prefer to use my Grado headphones. |
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coraltrpt Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the feedback! I ordered some open backed headphones, we'll see how this works out.
All the best! |
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Shark01 Veteran Member
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Don Herman rev2 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:14 am Post subject: |
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No.
Look at these for examples (may be out of your price range, just for illustration):
Grado SR60
Sennheiser HD650
The usual solution to too much isolation is to pull one earpiece off so you hear the click track or whatever in one ear and speakers/rest of the band in the other (uncovered) ear. That way you can get whatever headphones you want. _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley |
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Shark01 Veteran Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Don Herman rev2 wrote: | No.
Look at these for examples (may be out of your price range, just for illustration):
Grado SR60
Sennheiser HD650
The usual solution to too much isolation is to pull one earpiece off so you hear the click track or whatever in one ear and speakers/rest of the band in the other (uncovered) ear. That way you can get whatever headphones you want. |
So one of these is $80 dollars and the other is $367 (on sale). So what is the difference between to two for playing along with recordings?
Mind you, can afford either, but taking money out of the Ferrari can needs some justification.... |
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Don Herman rev2 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Different makers, different point in the line, different price points.
For play-along usage I would get the Grado SR60's and call it a day. _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley |
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mcstock Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Nov 2001 Posts: 466 Location: Norman, OK
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Our horn professor turned me on to Ivasi a few years ago. It's been a big help learning new pieces before the first (and normally only) rehearsal. He uses it regularly with his studio.
http://www.ivasi.org/dvd-systems
Best,
Matt _________________ “It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows.”
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