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vwag Veteran Member
Joined: 17 Jul 2016 Posts: 180 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:51 pm Post subject: Mt Vernon Bach 72 (New- to me) |
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After playing a Bach 72 at a recent store I had my eyes open for a 72 in the discount bins. As luck would have it, a local estate sale firm had a mid 60s, 26xxx Bach 72 out for bid. I went by and checked it out. All slides were stuck, exterior was spotty, but it was fairly pristine obviously having sat for years (if not decades). BUT, it did have an original case with exterior leather cover that was in great shape, and a key. It also had a couple early Bach mouthpieces- 7c, 5c. Inside the horn are some old accessories, but most interesting was a glass dropper bottle of Slikstuf. I won the bid, but likely paid about what it was worth (so much for a discount, everyone knows about these horns)
After getting a professional referral on a vintage restoration guy (in CO!), he gave it some love- valve alignment, minor dent repair, felt replacements, chem cleaning, and lacquer removal. It came out unbelievable. Truly a unique opportunity to get a player. What is truly amazing is the compression is perfect, the valves look brand new.
I only wish I could find information on the original owner, unfortunately they don't have it. Instead I'll just have to get a copy of the shop card.
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vwag Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, one more:
IMG_6193 by wagenx, on Flickr |
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trumpetera Heavyweight Member
Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 1210 Location: Gothenburg,Sweden
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Large bore? _________________ Principal trumpet Gothenburg Opera Orchestra
Bach LT 37 Bb (Mr. Findleys old)
Bach Mt Vernon 1957 Bb
Bach NY ML 1943 vintage Bb
Very old YTR-6335
Bach/Malone/Lechner C
Malone-Bach 229 C
H.Ganter Bb
Schagerl Wienna (older model) C
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rockford Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 2477 Location: Northern VA
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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That’s a very rare Mt. Vernon Vindobona. One of just 125 made in Mt. Vernon. Great find. _________________ Bill Siegfried
NY/Mt. Vernon Bach trumpets. Yamaha flugelhorn and piccolo A/Bb, Monette and Hammond mouthpieces. Fender and Peavey Cirrus Bass Guitars. Ampeg and Genz-Benz amps. Embraer 170/175/190. |
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TrumpetMD Heavyweight Member
Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 2412 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations on the new horn!
Mike _________________ Bach Stradivarius 43* Trumpet (1974), Bach 6C Mouthpiece.
Bach Stradivarius 184 Cornet (1988), Yamaha 13E4 Mouthpiece
Olds L-12 Flugelhorn (1969), Yamaha 13F4 Mouthpiece.
Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, HN White, and Besson horns. |
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 3992
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Beauty! |
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vwag Veteran Member
Joined: 17 Jul 2016 Posts: 180 Location: Denver, CO
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Can you clarify where you see that this is a Vindabona model? I remember reading that this was made to sound rotary-trumpet like? is that accurate? Thanks for any additional information on this horn! |
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Speed Veteran Member
Joined: 13 May 2015 Posts: 295 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Bill, what tells you that it's a Vindabona?
Thanks,
Marc Speed |
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vwag Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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trumpetera wrote: | Large bore? |
ML bore |
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rockford Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 2477 Location: Northern VA
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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vwag wrote: | Can you clarify where you see that this is a Vindabona model? I remember reading that this was made to sound rotary-trumpet like? is that accurate? Thanks for any additional information on this horn! | Part of my research was documenting the serial numbers of the Vindobona trumpets. The shop card for 26293 says Vindobona across the top. Mt. Vernon production stopped around 26700 so it’s also one of the very last Mt. Vernon’s. 72 .020 lightweight bell, 43 pipeis unmarked because it is standard. Valve section should just say ML and the telescoping tuning slide should measure .440-.448.-.453 This is a good find on several accounts. _________________ Bill Siegfried
NY/Mt. Vernon Bach trumpets. Yamaha flugelhorn and piccolo A/Bb, Monette and Hammond mouthpieces. Fender and Peavey Cirrus Bass Guitars. Ampeg and Genz-Benz amps. Embraer 170/175/190. |
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rockford Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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Check out vincentbachsworld.com for more detailed info. _________________ Bill Siegfried
NY/Mt. Vernon Bach trumpets. Yamaha flugelhorn and piccolo A/Bb, Monette and Hammond mouthpieces. Fender and Peavey Cirrus Bass Guitars. Ampeg and Genz-Benz amps. Embraer 170/175/190. |
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vwag Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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It seems even the mouthpieces are between 1965-1969, per the following spec: "VINCENT BACH CORP" (no period) = 1965-1969
Thanks everyone for the insight, much appreciated, what a treasure. |
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vwag Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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rockford wrote: | Check out vincentbachsworld.com for more detailed info. |
Thanks Bill, it was tough to find so including the link here=> http://www.vincentbachsworld.com/General%20Articles/Bach's%20Rotary%20Valve%20Trumpets/VINDABONNA%20Combined%20Final.htm
Great writeup. |
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65strad Heavyweight Member
Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 979 Location: Toms River, New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 6:14 am Post subject: |
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outstanding find! _________________ Tom
'08 Bach factory custom "one off" 43*G SN#2008
'65 Bach 181 37 SN#30836
'67 Bach 180 37 SN#39773
'70 Bach 181 37 SN#58831
'72 Bach 180S 43 SN#70503
'05 Bach VBS 196 Picc SN#560142
'07 Bach Chicago C SN#656602 |
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