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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although health at time of recording is less than super, the piccolo sounds as good as when a 'legit' guy is hired in the studio. As they did on Beatles' Penny Lane...


https://youtube.com/watch?v=RoRLUMLWxlY
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was Horst Fischer classically trained and is that jazz?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
Was Horst Fischer classically trained and is that jazz?


Other than Arban's and various cornet studies, no.. which makes it rare as hen's teeth to sound that good.

If I had to describe the record...pop would seem more appropriate.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuck Findley studied with Bernie Adelstein. Here's an interview with Mr. Findley where he tells the story and says how important he thinks classical training is for a jazz or commercial player to get a good foundation:
https://youtu.be/H4eEioqZAOs?t=424
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Booker Little, a great player who is sometimes overlooked, studied with Joseph Summerhill at Chicago Conservatory.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Wilder was both an outstanding jazz soloist and an accomplished orchestral player. He played in the Symphony of the New World.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oliver king wrote:
Booker Little, a great player who is sometimes overlooked, studied with Joseph Summerhill at Chicago Conservatory.


I haven't heard Joe's name in a long time. He worked part time at Schilke's when I was there and he recommended me for a Jewish band (Arnie Miller Orch) that he played in. I played a number of Jewish gigs with him. Joe had played in some of the hotel house bands and he was a wellspring of Vaudeville Schtik. A fun and funny guy and an excellent player. And, yes, Joe was a classically trained commercial player.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arnie (Arnold) Miller was our composition teacher at Sherwood Music School.
He told us about his band and that he wrote music for local puppet shows.
He gave us a solid foundation, but there were only a couple of us (not me) who could actually write a good melody.
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Some of Max Schlossberg students:

Mannie Klein, Charlie Margulis, Doc Cheatham, Harry James & Charlie Spivack.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:18 am    Post subject: Define "Classically Trained". Reply with quote

Sean Jones. He earned bachelor's and master's degrees in classical performance. According to the liner notes of his debut solo album, he returned to school to earn his master's after working for a while as a jazz musician. However, I'm unsure if he ever released a classical recording.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rothman wrote:
Although health at time of recording is less than super, the piccolo sounds as good as when a 'legit' guy is hired in the studio. As they did on Beatles' Penny Lane...


https://youtube.com/watch?v=RoRLUMLWxlY


I could be wrong, but this sounds like it was recorded an octave lower and sped up - it doesn't sound "right" to me. The trills are comically fast, for starters. Pretty common trick - the Beatles themselves used this technique all the time.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrClean wrote:

I could be wrong, but this sounds like it was recorded an octave lower and sped up - it doesn't sound "right" to me. The trills are comically fast, for starters. Pretty common trick - the Beatles themselves used this technique all the time.


Now that you mention it..it does sound altered or sped up. www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoRLUMLWxlY

Another, possibly stranger trick -- the unusually rich sound in the middle register of his.
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