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rothman
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:52 pm    Post subject: Pan American...or other ? Reply with quote

Curious what horn Fats Navarro played here..

A general search points to a Pan American noting the brace at the top..however the brace is soldered the other way. Could have been a rundown horn that received work.. by someone who didn't much fuss the orientation.

[img=http://img18105.imagevenue.com/loc793/th_05940_Panam_122_793lo.JPG]

[img=http://img18126.imagevenue.com/loc964/th_05941_1933PanAmericanFrat_122_964lo.jpg]

[img=http://img18104.imagevenue.com/loc168/th_05941_1933PanAmer_122_168lo.jpg]
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt the brace is a distinctive enough feature to ID the horn but it's really interesting to see such an early photo of Fats Navarro. Do you have any info relating to it?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Pan American I had cost me, used in 1959, one dollar. I'm sure Brownie wouldn't use his one.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Prestage wrote:
I doubt the brace is a distinctive enough feature to ID the horn but it's really interesting to see such an early photo of Fats Navarro. Do you have any info relating to it?

Mike


The one manufacturer that popped up in the 30's with that type of brace was the Pan American, but there may be others. Fortunately, he held the horn at an angle where the sun reflected directly, highlighting the brace. At that time, an accomplished sponge diver, probably not more than 14 - 15 years of age, ca. 1937. Searching that year and earlier, is how the 33 Frat model surfaced. . having an elliptical 180 degree brace.

Elkhart historians of that era, would do well to confirm.

A robust, healthy kid, without a doubt..

[img=http://img18125.imagevenue.com/loc262/th_46320_Navarro_122_262lo.jpg]
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
The Pan American I had cost me, used in 1959, one dollar. I'm sure Brownie wouldn't use his one.


Clifford and Fats both played Martins later on..if not mistaken.

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