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16mguilette
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 Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:15 pm Post subject: Mutes with Plunger? |
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Hey all - I was wondering what type of mute is in the bell of the trumpets in this video, at 3:18 or so (really good shot of it at 3:40). I'm playing it in my jazz band and have the plunger bit but am not sure if I have the other piece. We don't play much of this sort of stuff, but rather things written in the last 10 years or so, so this is my first time really needing to produce this sound.
Here's the video (the link starts at 3:18)
https://youtu.be/cwcXMhG9O4s?t=196
The music just says 'plunger' and gives us the wa's and +/o on each note.
Thanks!
(Bonus points if you post a link to where I can buy one before my concert in a few weeks)[/youtube]
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zaferis
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:08 am Post subject: |
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pixie (basically a small straight mute)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0w_qeTCqiw&t=321s
Bonus = Amazon.com "H&M Pixie"
You'll want a plunger too - most hardware stores. But if you want an excellent one look for a Mutec Plunger Mute
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jazz_trpt
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:05 am Post subject: Re: Mutes with Plunger? |
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| 16mguilette wrote: | Hey all - I was wondering what type of mute is in the bell of the trumpets in this video, at 3:18 or so (really good shot of it at 3:40). I'm playing it in my jazz band and have the plunger bit but am not sure if I have the other piece. We don't play much of this sort of stuff, but rather things written in the last 10 years or so, so this is my first time really needing to produce this sound.
Here's the video (the link starts at 3:1
https://youtu.be/cwcXMhG9O4s?t=196
The music just says 'plunger' and gives us the wa's and +/o on each note.
Thanks!
(Bonus points if you post a link to where I can buy one before my concert in a few weeks)[/youtube] |
It's very, very common to simply use plunger (or equivalent) alone for this section of this particular tune. If the arranger had wanted pixie+plunger, they probably would have indicated so. I would ask your director before investing in a pixie.
That said, the aforementioned Denis Wick straight mute for Eb trumpet is an affordable option that I've found works pretty well. (It seems to my I heard that the Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra guys were using these for a time.)
I find the Humes and Berg pixie mute to be super squirrely from a resistance and intonation perspective. If you opt for that you may need to experiment with filing the corks or making other alterations to get it to work well:
https://www.amazon.com/Humes-Berg-112-Trumpet-Mute/dp/B0002DV5JA/
Finally, I really like the Facet pixie and use it a lot for this type of application:
https://www.facetmutes.com/store/Pixie-Miley-Trumpet-c13793888
HTH....
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Denny Schreffler
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:47 am Post subject: Re: Mutes with Plunger? |
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| jazz_trpt wrote: |
That said, the aforementioned Denis Wick straight mute for Eb trumpet is an affordable option that I've found works pretty well. (It seems to my I heard that the Lincoln Center Jazz Orchestra guys were using these for a time.)
I find the Humes and Berg pixie mute to be super squirrely from a resistance and intonation perspective. If you opt for that you may need to experiment with filing the corks or making other alterations to get it to work well:
https://www.amazon.com/Humes-Berg-112-Trumpet-Mute/dp/B0002DV5JA/
Finally, I really like the Facet pixie and use it a lot for this type of application:
https://www.facetmutes.com/store/Pixie-Miley-Trumpet-c13793888
HTH.... |
Removing the tube inside the Pixie helps, some.
Finding the right seating (depth into bell which is dependent on cork height) is fussy and not totally satisfactory -- especially if trying to use it in different horns.
I hadn't seen the Facet Pixie -- thanks for that info
-Denny |
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