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Tony Scodwell
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:22 pm    Post subject: Bach's church Reply with quote

Two very nice things happened to me recently in Leipzig, Germany. One was a visit to St Thomas where J.S. Bach resided for several years. The other was hearing Ludvig Guttler in concert in the church with another trumpeter Volker Stegmann and superb organist Friedrich Kircheis. Actually three good things happened. A visit to the Bach museum as well and the original portrait of Gottfried Reiche showing his instrument and Ablassen fanfare along with a replica of his instrument shown in the portrait. The replica was shown as the original was lost. I bought several CD's from Herr Guttler which he graciously signed for me. I think he was (somewhat) impressed when I told him (in my best German) that I had played first trumpet for Harry James. At least I got a smile after telling him that.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice! I got to visit Leipzig in '84, when it was still in East Germany. It was a very memorable experience.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure if his progeny are represented in the museum, but there is this quote found from Mozart crediting his musical background and direction to C. PH. E. Bach.

Johann is far more celebrated of the two but.. to each his own.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most excellent!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neat story! Sounds like a great trip.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The original acoustic settings are very intriguing to me. I would love to hear the antiphonal triple-brass-quintets of Gabrieli in the Basilica di San Marco in Venice.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gabrieli die not write any music for brass quintets and certainly would never have heard anything remotely resembling a modern brass ensemble.

I guess the original acoustical setting for "triple-brass-quintets" would be somewhere like Carnegie Hall.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony,
I was in Leipzig this summer.
Some of the important thing I do, is to visit the places where J. S. Bach and Gottfried Reiche used to be. The two churches and "Das Alte Rathaus". The school where Bach lived and worked was demolished in 1902. Really a bad thing to do.
In the building that resides there now, you find a so called "Bach Museum", but that is in my opinion not very good. No items from Bach there.

When I was in Leipzig in 2005, I could not enter the old Rathaus - they were fixing it for the "Bachfest Leipzig". But this summer, I could go there.
I was alone in the room where the two Hausman paintings resides. That was for me the highlight of the stay in Leipzig.
I almost felt like I had a "closeness" to both Bach and his trumpeter Reiche, sitting there and looking at those pictures.

Ole

P.S:
Would have loved to listen to Guettler live. I have many of his recordings.
When I was in the church in Dresden, "Die Frauenkirche" I saw him, but I did not approach him like you did.
Btw, I think he did a lot of work to have that church restored.


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Tony Scodwell
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:16 am    Post subject: Bach's church Reply with quote

OJ.
Many thanks for the kind words. I agree about the Bach museum and indeed it was the old Rathaus where I stood in front of the painting of Reiche. The replica of his instrument was next to the painting and I also felt humbled to be there.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Tony
- it was nice to see the replica of that instrument.

Btw, I have written a bit about it:

The first one to play on a replica of the "Reiche coiled trumpet" was Walter Holy in 1959.

More here:

http://ojtrumpet.net/holy/


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