3c rim but less cup depth

ohnecael · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:57 am Post subject: 3c rim but less cup depth

Im looking for a mouthpiece with a 3 rim but less cup depth. Not looking for a lead piece or any specialized type mouthpieces, just something with a little more pizzaz if you are catching my drift.

Edit: ive used Stork, Curry, Bach and Schilke. Ive enjoyed Curry and Stork the Best and would appreciate any reccomendations in either of those two manufacturers. thanks again!
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Don Herman rev2 · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:05 am Post subject:

Are you using a 3C? If so you could try a Curry 3D or 3DE, or maybe one of the M models.
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crose · Veteran Member Joined: 01 Sep 2010 Posts: 188

The Curry mediums cups are great. All about the same depth, but different shapes. His descriptions on his site are spot on.

My take - The * is bright - great for commercial work or holding down a non-lead chair in a big band.

M - lots of folks love it - not enough difference for me

I love the DE cup. Lots of folks use it for picc, but I use it for all around playing unless I have to enter the "legit" world.

* = Star

http://www.currympc.com/index.php?id=47

I try to buy local, but have no guilt in using the big box stores return policy to try pieces.

TIJO · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:43 am Post subject:

Bob Reeves can put a 3c rim on any of their cup and backbore combinations.
I just got a 3c/SV/692 from them and couldn't be happier.
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trickg · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:54 am Post subject:

It has been my experience that the Curry 3C has a bit of a bright bite to the sound, and it's a comfortable mouthpiece. Maybe that's something you could try.

Or, a screw-rim setup would probably get you where you want to go too.
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ohnecael · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:28 am Post subject:

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TKSop · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:46 am Post subject:

There's always the humble Yamaha Shew Jazz, too - the slightly tighter backbore gives it that extra sprinkling of sparkle... might be all you need, and they're fairly priced (and abundant used).

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If my memory is correct, Bach makes a 3D and a 3E.

cheiden · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:10 am Post subject:

I've got one 3C playing friend that likes the Bach 3D. Personally, I don't like the 3D rim.

I know another player who wanted a 3C with a shallower cup but didn't want the 3D rim or backbore so he had a Reeves cut and thread a 3C rim onto a 3C underpart but had Bob reduce the cup to approximate the 3D depth. I'm pretty sure he uses that for his picc.

I liked the Shew Jazz well enough but something about it hurt my endurance. FWIW I did play a Bach 1.5C underpart with a 76 backbore for a while and it felt just fine.
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Croquethed · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:33 am Post subject:

+1 on the Curry 3M.

Don Herman rev2 · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:35 am Post subject:

ML52K · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:36 am Post subject:

Horntrader.com has his HT3CS. Reported to be slightly shallower 3C patterned after I believe a Mt Vernon 3C of Arturo’s. Now with 29, 28, or 27 drill size. I have the 3CS-27. I find it very comfortable. For “me” it gives me a clear but not bright tone quality with better upper register support.

ohnecael · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:24 am Post subject:

Dale Proctor · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:02 pm Post subject:

The Curry 3M is a little more shallow than his 3C and still has a middle of the road sound (for me, anyway). The 3Z is even more shallow, has a smaller throat, and has a lot more zing to the tone.
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jaysonr · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:51 pm Post subject:

Also worth considering is an ACB 3CS
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Locutus2k · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:56 am Post subject:

I love Curry pieces but for some reason i can not get along with his M cup that seems the most reasonable choice for someone wanting a slightly shallower C cup. I suggest along with others in this thread that you try the DE cup. Very confy cup for me. If you're looking for a lead piece the Z will do.
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Steve Hollahan · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:26 am Post subject: Bach 3C

If you are looking for a smaller cup, try the 3D or 3E, also there is a 3F. Great mouthpiece. Wish I'd stayed with it, but on advice of teacher got a 1 1/2 C.

Now play a Reeves 43N deep C 2 6 with 27 throat. Also, same back bore with 26 throat for C trumpet.

Check Reeves comparator for suggestions on new mouthpieces.
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Pete · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:30 am Post subject:

Bach 3D
Shew Jazz
Warburton 4M

That being said, call Phyllis Stork and talk to her about what you are looking for. They will usually send you a couple of pieces to try, and send them back if they don't work. John and Phyllis are good people.

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cheiden · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:17 am Post subject: Re: Bach 3C