Bach 5 c alternatives

mark61 · Veteran Member Joined: 28 Feb 2011 Posts: 173

I know you know your stuff but the 5 me. Is a 3-5 type rim. I would rather stay on the 5 side of it and away from the 3
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SatchmoGillespie · Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:11 pm Post subject:

Talk to Jim New. He could probably recommend one of his stock pieces. Maybe one of his S rims, possibly an S4, which comes close to the diameter of a 5C. If you give him an inkling of what you want, he'll make it happen.
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Larry Stone · Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:53 pm Post subject:

A fantastic 5C is the Flip Oakes 5C-O. I believe it is the same rim as the Curry 5C, but it has a Bach style blank and a C cup with an open back-bore. The standard drill size is 27 and mine is opened to 26. The sound and overall play-ability is amazing!

O00Joe · Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:52 pm Post subject:

Are Laskey mouthpieces made anymore? I can't find any new or used 60 rim Laskeys for sale.
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Locutus2k · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:54 am Post subject:

If you like the 5C size/rim/depth but needs some sparkle/aid in the upper register another suggestion is to try a Curry 5C cup along with a Curry X10 babckbore. Mouthpiece express sells the Curry 2 pieces.
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Fig · Veteran Member Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Posts: 140

Have you tried a Bach 6C? Completely different, more comfortable rim.

feedback@stomvi-usa · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:35 am Post subject:

You might consider taking a Stomvi Flex 5FVR J6 for a test drive.

https://stomvi-usa.com/product/5f-vr-flex-trumpet-mouthpiece/

These are quite exceptional mouth pieces that provide the player the platform that is quite versatile and as advertised simply easier to play. Be sure to check out the review of this mouthpiece on the product page.
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mark61 · Veteran Member Joined: 28 Feb 2011 Posts: 173

Actually Fig , I do have a 6 c here in good shape. Forgot I had it.

I would like to try the Stomvi, but the price is totally out of my range, unless you hav a blank or used demo cheap.

Thanks
Mark

B_Starry · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:58 pm Post subject:

Maybe try a Blackburn 5C. More comfortable than the Bach (IMO) and just a bit heavier blank. Not as much as a mega, but noticeably heavier than a normal Bach mp.
I have both a 5B and 5C and they give me some good options depending on the playing situation.
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mark61 · Veteran Member Joined: 28 Feb 2011 Posts: 173

Don't really see these listed anywhere although I would try it.
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Mark

tryan · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:32 pm Post subject:

I like Pickett’s stuff- the sizes correspond to Bach’s but the rim is less sharp.
I have a Laskey 60C 25 throat and 60B 26 throat if anybody’s interested.

Vin DiBona · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:23 pm Post subject:

Scott Laskey passed away earlier this year.
His wife and son are looking to see if anyone would be willing to purchase the Laskey name and products.
Here is the web page
http://laskey.com/

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mark61 · Veteran Member Joined: 28 Feb 2011 Posts: 173

I'm sorry about Scott. Didn't know. Blessings to his Family and close friends

Mark

HaveTrumpetWillTravel · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:41 pm Post subject:

Just another vote for a Denis Wick 4b--I think Joe mentioned it above. It gets listed in the 3c-7c range. I find it very comfortable and it's what led me to realize the 5c is a good fit for me also.

mark61 · Veteran Member Joined: 28 Feb 2011 Posts: 173

Anyone with an extra Wick ?

Mark

GeorgeB · Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:22 am Post subject:

Mark, I want to correct a statement I said regarding the ID of the Bach 5C and the Stork 4C. I said the ID was 16.5 when in fact they are both listed as 16.25.
I know this doesn't change anything for you. I just wanted to correct an error I made.
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Vin DiBona · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:50 am Post subject:

The main issue with published inner diameters is how do the manufacturers measure it?
Bach specs are notoriously off. The published 5C diameter is not even close to many direct measurements by very reputable manufacturers. Check out this graph. http://everythingtrumpet.com/schilke/Bach-Schilke_mpc_chart.html Not even close are they? Others have very similar measurements as well. Another factor is where is the measurement from? The crown of the mouthpiece or other arbitrary place. How far down to they take the measurement? GR and Marcinkiewicz measure down from the crown of the rim .032. There are some that say this too is arbitrary and does not tell you what it feels like. Certainly, it cannot tell you how it feels but it is consistent within the particular sizes of their mouthpieces.
Rims make a huge difference in feel. Personally, I use a GR e65M. This size is roughly a 5C diameter but with a wider, more 3C like rim. The crown of this e rim is further to the outer edge, making it feel bigger, but the cup diameter is the same as the 65M which to me feels smaller in diameter. Its high point is closer to the cup itself. Personally, I find the Stork 4C rim to be wildly different from a Bach 5C rim.
The Stork is quite wide and rather round. The 5C rim feels very precise and narrow.
I believe the best method to determine sizes is to visit the manufacturers sites. GRs website shows how he does his measurements and a phone call to the actual manufacturers is a far better place to get straight info that any trumpet forum.
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Vin DiBona · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:51 am Post subject:

Deleted.
Double post.

GeorgeB · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:07 am Post subject: