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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any thoughts on a Reeves 41 m ? Is it close and a bit shallower or too shallow ?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark61 wrote:
Any thoughts on a Reeves 41 m ? Is it close and a bit shallower or too shallow ?

Mark

In my limited experience, the Reeves 41 is much smaller. I'd try a 42 to approximate the size, though the bite and rim feel will be quite different. To my lips, the stock Reeves pieces feel rather flat and 3C-ish but noticeably wider. The 43 size is available as a 43N which counters the extra width, but I don't see that offered for the 42 size. I'm reasonably confident the Reeves M cup will be shallower than a stock Bach 5C.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply, very helpful !!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:52 pm    Post subject: 5c Reply with quote

I would suggest trying the Giddings and Webster in their 5 size. I've been using a 5M for about a month now, and I've found it to be an improvement over what I was using.

I believe they offer a 14 day return policy.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 5c Reply with quote

Brent wrote:
I would suggest trying the Giddings and Webster in their 5 size. I've been using a 5M for about a month now, and I've found it to be an improvement over what I was using.

I believe they offer a 14 day return policy.

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Do you find there to be a significant difference between brass and steel (or titanium) mouthpieces? I'd love to try one.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:28 pm    Post subject: GW Reply with quote

The Giddings has a faster response, and my articulations seem cleaner. The biggest improvement is endurance.

Not sure if that's because it's stainless steel, or just the mouthpiece design. I would say there was an adjustment period, as the rim is different that what I was using, which was a Stork 3D.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, I'll have to try one some day. At this point I'm not necessarily looking for something, I just want to try as much as I can for the sake of knowledge and experience. Mouthpieces are my topic of interest I guess.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gifdings is that good. Wish I could find the 5 c alternative at a used price.
Which Mpc size is the equivalent ?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone with a used Giddings 5 ?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark61 wrote:
Any thoughts on a Reeves 41 m ? Is it close and a bit shallower or too shallow ?

Mark

A 42C or a Purviance 8A (5*K4) would be closer.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:54 pm    Post subject: 5c Reply with quote

Hi Mark:

According to their site, their 5 size is based off the size of a Mt. Vernon 5c size.

https://www.gwmouthpieces.com/collections/trumpet/products/5-gw-trumpet-mouthpiece-rim-diameter-16-40mm-646-inches

I'm using a 5M, with their 27 back bore.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:15 pm    Post subject: Vintage Purviance 5*K4 Reply with quote

Mark...
I am selling Bob Reeves Purviance 5*K4 whick is alot like a Bach 5C with a slightly shallower cup, and a rounder inner alpha angle that makes the rim more comfortable.
Gold plated

PM me and I will send a photo of it next to a 5C

http://glennbutler.com/Gold/Purviance1.jpg
http://glennbutler.com/Gold/Purviance2.jpg
http://glennbutler.com/Gold/Purviance3.jpg
http://glennbutler.com/Gold/Purviance4.jpg
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