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ashenfang Regular Member
Joined: 10 Oct 2018 Posts: 15
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:42 pm Post subject: Cleaning a Bach Strat 37 |
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Long story short - the valves in this horn have considerable tarnish on the brass stem of the valve, and moderate scale/buildup in the valve ports. Washing with soap and water did nothing. I have read that soaking the valves in white vinegar for 15-20 minutes, followed by a 10 minute bath in baking soda will loosen these deposits. I have read the same process can be done with the entire horn. Anybody have luck with this process? (BTW, wasn't sure which forum to put this under) |
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Don Herman rev2 'Chicago School' Forum Moderator
Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 8951 Location: Monument, CO
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'd find a good local tech or send it off to one. Heavy deposits can be hard to clean properly. _________________ "After silence, that which best expresses the inexpressible, is music" - Aldous Huxley |
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zaferis Heavyweight Member
Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Posts: 2329 Location: Beavercreek, OH
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, find a good tech that can "chem clean" or "sonic clean" the instrument.
Then take some lessons in maintenance... there are simple steps that will prevent the need for this kind of cleaning. _________________ Freelance Performer/Educator
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ashenfang Regular Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies. I know how to care for a horn but this one is an 80’s era Strat given to me. It sat in the case for over a decade which led to the need for a deeper cleaning. |
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cbtj51 Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Nov 2015 Posts: 725 Location: SE US
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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That's what techs do! The good ones are worth the $ that you spend and most often, much, much more. Do it yourself, in my experience, costs a whole lot more (the aggravation is the coup de grace)! Save yourself the time and all of the unnecessary frustration, let a professional do it correctly and be done with it!!! _________________ '71 LA Benge 5X Bb
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Crazy Finn Heavyweight Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 8333 Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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ashenfang wrote: | Thanks for the replies. I know how to care for a horn but this one is an 80’s era Strat given to me. It sat in the case for over a decade which led to the need for a deeper cleaning. |
Yup. Those hard deposits are hard to get out if you don't have the tools that a tech does. A cleaning isn't that expensive. _________________ LA Benge 3X Bb Trumpet
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Speed Veteran Member
Joined: 13 May 2015 Posts: 295 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:24 am Post subject: |
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I bought a used Selmer CG a few months ago (which was manufactured at the Bach factory). The outside was very nice, but the inside was nasty - the worst I've ever seen. It was full of green stuff.
After a warm water and Dawn bath did nothing of consequence, I soaked the disassembled horn, with the felts removed from the valves, in a 50-50 mixture of white vinegar and warm water. I let it soak all afternoon, then rinsed it with warm water and Dawn dishwashing liquid.
It helped, but I ultimately took it in for a chem clean.
While the vinegar/water bath didn't clean it as well as I had hoped, it certainly did no harm. Perhaps a stronger mixture or a longer soak would have helped more.
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Yamahaguy Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:25 am Post subject: |
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+1...especially with stuck valves and slides, leave it to a tech to remedy.
A good chem clean and polish should be under $100. And be careful with
ultra-sonic cleans too, if done improperly can loosen solder joints and such. |
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