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RDWII New Member
Joined: 01 Jan 2019 Posts: 9 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:53 pm Post subject: mouthpiece concepts |
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after all these years no one has explained to me just what the differences are in mouthpieces.
I know its all about various shapes but...
Rim width affects ____________
Rim shape affects ____________
Bowl depth affects ____________
Bowl shape affects ____________
etc. Can any one sum it up for me?
Thanks! _________________ Getzen 900s-LB, 1977 |
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oxleyk Heavyweight Member
Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 4178
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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These can all be found by reading TH. The best way to search is by entering something like the following examples in Google.
site:trumpetherald.com ~rim width
site:trumpetherald.com ~rim shape
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O00Joe Veteran Member
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 364 Location: Houston & Austin, Texas
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Here are a few links with answers, I'll come back and edit this comment with my takes.
https://www.dansr.com/wick/resources/a-beginners-guide-to-mouthpiece-anatomy
http://www.mouthpieceexpress.com/specshub/anatomy.html
EDIT:
Rim width: more = helps with endurance / less = more precision, more flexibility
Rim shape: more rounded = more precision, more flexibility / more flat = helps with endurance by easing blood flow
Adding alpha angle as it concerns both the rim and cup: higher alpha angle = helps with endurance particularly in the high register, gives lips "padding", adds "edge" / lower alpha angle = keeps embouchure from bottoming out, more "chop room", cleaner articulation
Cup depth: more = darker sound, easier low range / less = brighter sound, easier high register
Cup shape: more C = slows air down, rounds sound, cleaner articulation / more V = speeds air up, directs sound and adds "edge", easier high register
These are very general notions and shouldn't be considered rules. What makes a mouthpiece is the combination of all parts. Other important considerations include the throat entrance, throat, blank design, backbore, and the gap between the mouthpiece and leadpipe. I could add information on those except backbores because they honestly are their own enigma and I'm not as confident with characterizing the different shapes. Also note that terms and even measurements differ between brands adding to the ambiguity. Last time I checked the website was down for me but check out the GR mouthpiece website. They have a whole "school" that quantifies every aspect of the mouthpiece in a more objective way.
If anyone has something they think I should add to this list or see something incorrect please let me know. _________________ 1981 Bb Bach Stradivarius 37/25 ML raw - Laskey 60C
2003 C Bach Stradivarius 239/25A L silver - Stork Vacchiano 4C25C
2006 Bb/A Schilke Piccolo P5-4 silver - Reeves A adaptor - Stork SM SP6
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jadickson Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 1294 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Google for the Bach Mouthpiece Manual. All of these questions are addressed in the introductory pages. _________________ Justin Dickson
Middle school band director. Still learning.
www.BandmateTuner.com |
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Ed Kennedy Heavyweight Member
Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 3187
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:59 am Post subject: |
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jadickson wrote: | Google for the Bach Mouthpiece Manual. All of these questions are addressed in the introductory pages. |
Excellent. Also, Stork. Phyllis is the bomb:
https://storkcustom.com/doctor-mouthpiece/ |
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B. Scriver Heavyweight Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2002 Posts: 1204 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:26 am Post subject: |
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We have a rather large section of our webste dedicated to answering these questions. Go to www.grmouthpieces.com and see the GR Mouthpieces School link.
Brian Scriver
www.grmouthpieces.com |
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