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3thanP
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:38 pm    Post subject: Questions about Curry Mouthpieces Reply with quote

Does anyone have any experience they can share with Curry pieces? I'm thinking about getting one as a new all around but I'm not sure what's best for me. I personally can't really play on a 3c, flatter rims don't work, so I tend to like something a little more rounded.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great quality pieces - very consistent from one example to the next.

What sort of ID do you favour?
I quite liked the Curry 1.5 which feels broad without feeling flat, doesn't feel substantially bigger than the 3-dot
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I kind of feel that Curry mouthpieces are as close to "standard" as it gets outside of Bach. They are overall great mouthpieces, I recommend them as a good place to start looking at different mouthpiece brands.

What diameter do you use? The 5C has a nice sort of rounded rim with a somewhat sharp bite. I don't know how much difference it makes but you can also order one with a Bach-like blank. In my experience Currys sound a little different but I've only tried them in the default blank.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I purchased a used Yamaha 14a4a on eBay for around $20 just to try something new a while back and the rim is really comfortable but bottoming out is a problem since it's a lead piece. It's got a diameter of 16.68 mm
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3thanP wrote:
I purchased a used Yamaha 14a4a on eBay for around $20 just to try something new a while back and the rim is really comfortable but bottoming out is a problem since it's a lead piece. It's got a diameter of 16.68 mm


Rule #1 of shopping for mouthpieces across different brands - DO NOT trust manufacturers stated diameters unquestioningly.
It's not that they're inaccurate necessarily (though some are), but certain brands measure in different places to each other and at any rate the rim shape, bite and cup shape will all affect your perception of size on top of that.


What pieces have you had success with previously?
And why are you not using them now?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TKSop wrote:
3thanP wrote:
I purchased a used Yamaha 14a4a on eBay for around $20 just to try something new a while back and the rim is really comfortable but bottoming out is a problem since it's a lead piece. It's got a diameter of 16.68 mm


Rule #1 of shopping for mouthpieces across different brands - DO NOT trust manufacturers stated diameters unquestioningly.
It's not that they're inaccurate necessarily (though some are), but certain brands measure in different places to each other and at any rate the rim shape, bite and cup shape will all affect your perception of size on top of that.


What pieces have you had success with previously?
And why are you not using them now?


I originally started out on the standard 7c and then eventually bought a 3c to try out, but I suppose getting my braces off and my lips changing limited my ability with the 3c. I switched back to a 7c just because the 3c wasn't doing it for me anymore. I'm a highschool trumpet player as well, no advanced professional by any means.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there anything wrong with your 7c that you're looking to rectify or are you just curious to try something different?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TKSop wrote:
Is there anything wrong with your 7c that you're looking to rectify or are you just curious to try something different?


I'm just looking to branch out into something different to hone my skills on rather than my standard 7c
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does your teacher suggest? He/she likely has a few that you could test. Don’t have a teacher? You might consider spending your $$ on lessons rather than new hardware. I know, well directed practice isn’t as much fun as shopping but your chances of finding the silver bullet are not good. You are likely still at the stage where your biggest gains will come from hard work not hardware.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geodude wrote:
What does your teacher suggest? He/she likely has a few that you could test. Don’t have a teacher? You might consider spending your $$ on lessons rather than new hardware. I know, well directed practice isn’t as much fun as shopping but your chances of finding the silver bullet are not good. You are likely still at the stage where your biggest gains will come from hard work not hardware.


You're 100% right in all those respects
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curry mouthpieces are quite nice... very consistent, and not very expensive. Beyond being well balanced, between comfort, sound, articulation, etc. I really enjoy that with every rim in a series (I play on the 3 rims) they "feel' the same on the chops. As an example: a Yamaha 14B4 (which I played for years) feels different than a 14C4 or 14a4a.
And as much as I'm a Bach trumpet fan, endorsing artist and all. I can say not so much with the mouthpieces. The 3C which is a solid mouthpiece and used by many (including myself for a long time) - I find to be a bit stuffy up top. and the 1.5 C that I go to for that full on legit trumpet sound is also not great on the high end, especially away from the serious legit stuff. Even in concert bands I found it to lack something..
I think you'd find a Curry 3C to feel a touch larger, and have a slighlty softer bite - but provide you with a very consistent sound and resistnance througout your range. With the added bonus of know that if you wanted something deeper or shallower, you'd be getting the same rim shape.
Curry 3C is my every day piece, 3C with a 25 throat for my CL, 3 Star for commercial work, 3DE or 3P on my picc... etc... I find them all "hot swappable" going from one to the other freely and comfortably.

I will also 2nd the thought of "what does YOUR teacher say?"
Find a way of experimenting with a variety of pieces to find YOUR fit. I do this often with student - I'll bring my box of mouthpieces (many brands & sizes) and let them try without guidance or knowledge of what they're playing - Interestly, studenst gravitate toward 3 or 4 mouthpieces.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An important consideration is whether you can develop the necessary endurance with a mouthpiece. And a part of that is whether it 'fits' your teeth and lips so it can be played for an extended period - and remains sounding good.

Ask your school band director about how you sound. e.g. Do you have a good 'clean' sound? Are you able to articulate fast passages? Do you have trouble 'hitting the right note' on entrances, etc.

If you are good from the view of the director, and the 7c is comfortable, then I won't expect a different mouthpiece to make a worthwhile difference now. If you do find a real problem that is caused by the mouthpiece, then that's another story.

The Bach 7c is widely used because it WORKS for lots of players.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a recommendation for a "Curry-like" mouthpiece, Flip Oakes. Similar feel but a different take on the concept. Plus, unlike Curry, you can call Flip and ask questions. He will steer you in a good direction. And they are inexpensive.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious if we're ever going to see a sixth post from the OP.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Mohan wrote:
I'm curious if we're ever going to see a sixth post from the OP.


Coincidentally I'm at my schools orchestra concert right now
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Mohan wrote:
I'm curious if we're ever going to see a sixth post from the OP.


Yes it would be enough to post five.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how the Curry 7 rim is but it sounds like a Curry 5C or 7C is what you're looking for. (Yamaha 14 is around a Bach/Curry 5, Bach 7 and Curry 7 should have matching diameter as well.)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

O00Joe wrote:
I don't know how the Curry 7 rim is but it sounds like a Curry 5C or 7C is what you're looking for. (Yamaha 14 is around a Bach/Curry 5, Bach 7 and Curry 7 should have matching diameter as well.)

Not so sure about the Bach due to their notoriety of lack of consistency.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really appreciate everyone's help with this!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well in *theory* Bach and Curry's rims sizes should match in diameter and feel. Currys are based off Bach Mt. Vernon.
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