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z5rag
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:12 am    Post subject: going high and low Reply with quote

What is the secret to playing a run of high notes with a very low note in the middle of the run? I am having a hard time getting that low note out. Is it all in practice or is there a technique to it?

Bob
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the specific pitches involved? Is there a written dynamic? Do you approach and depart from the low note by tonguing, slurring, or a combination? I don't know about secrets, but I might have some suggestions to make this easier.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

z5rag, you have unwittingly revealed the secret - technique AND practice! Play it slowly. Isolate sections of notes. Play it backwards. Transpose it down to where you can play it easily, then transpose up 1/2 step at a time. Back off on the air ever so slighty for the lower note.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arban pages 125-130. Drill, baby, drill.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allen Vizzutti suggests working on intervals slowly and with a light touch. As Starkadder mentions, Arban's interval studies --practiced in that manner -- are helpful, as are the gruppetto studies on page 91-93.

Other sources include Franquin's studies on intervals (particularly third series) and arpeggios (fifth series has some big leaps), and St. Jacome's 22 Exercises on the Scale and Intervals (starting on page 157).

Laurie Frink and John McNeil's terrific book "Flexus" has very useful material on what they call "quick register changes" -- over 40 pages of exercises. The section on chromatic displacements is really helpful. It has low-to-high and high-to-low exercises.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: going high and low Reply with quote

z5rag wrote:
What is the secret to playing a run of high notes with a very low note in the middle of the run? I am having a hard time getting that low note out. Is it all in practice or is there a technique to it?

Bob

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What is needed is a 'compromise' embouchure setting that can play the needed range without big physical changes. If you use a special setting for the high notes (or low) then switching quickly between them is difficult - especially if the position of the mpc on your lips is different.

Train to expand the playable interval range WITHOUT doing 'resets'. Start in the middle and expand both up and down.

Jay
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