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PawnshopSelmerMan
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:14 am    Post subject: Monette mouthpieces Reply with quote

Hello,

Soon I will have a brand new Bach 180s 37. I dont try to talk me out of it cause I'm still going to get it. I recently started listening to a lot of Bobby Shew. I also have a my own reason for wanting to get a Monette mouthpiece. My question is, which Monette mouthpiece is best for a Bach 37. I'm trying to capture a smooth jazz sound like Bobby Shew.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: Monette mouthpieces Reply with quote

Why not call Monette and let them get all your personal needs?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 Monette deals with customer individually; call and ask them.

It may take more than the mouthpiece to sound Like Bobby Shew, and the mouthpiece you use to sound like him, may be nothing like the mouthpiece he uses...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since Bobby plays his own Yamaha Shew Jazz and Lead mouthpieces on a 8310Z the setup he has will be different than yours to start with.

Bobby describes his Jazz mouthpiece as around a Bach 3D. That would be around a Monette B6LD S1. As far as compatibility with a Bach 37, who knows? That would be something that you would have to figure out for yourself.

Bobby's horn model, which I have one, plays quite a bit differently than a Bach 37. The 37 bell flair is definitely tighter than the Z bell flair which is closer to a Bach 72*.

The best thing to do is to play the Bach for a while with your current mouthpiece to see if that works. Then call Monette and let them know what you are looking for.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I play a B4LDS1 on a 37S and I'm very happy with it. Lovely warm sound for Jazz and then lights up nicely as you go higher. I also play orchestral stuff on it because I don't want to switch between mouthpieces at the moment, fits in well there as well.

But ask Monette. They know more about their mouthpieces than any of us
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Monette mouthpieces Reply with quote

PawnshopSelmerMan wrote:
Hello,

Soon I will have a brand new Bach 180s 37. I dont try to talk me out of it cause I'm still going to get it. I recently started listening to a lot of Bobby Shew. I also have a my own reason for wanting to get a Monette mouthpiece. My question is, which Monette mouthpiece is best for a Bach 37. I'm trying to capture a smooth jazz sound like Bobby Shew.

Best,

PawnshopSelmerman


Talk you out of it?? Think maybe you’re being a bit presumptuous?

Call Monette, they are very helpful.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice everyone. I will call Monette when the time comes. I'll try to write a post later on concerning the Bach 37 and Monette mouthpiece. That will be some time oh around April or so. Full details at that time though.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bobby Shew has a great sound that is worth emulating.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over the years I have played the following Monette mouthpieces with my Bach Strad 18037 and then 19037:

B2 S3
B2 S5
C2M S3 (yup, C series)
B3 S3
B4 S3
B4S S2
B4LD/2 S3
B6 S1

All were Classic (vice Prana), most were STC weight, a couple were Resonance-type, LT or XLT weight.

All of them worked very well with the Bach, though none of them made me sound like Bobby Shew....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm selling a Monette 6, which is essentially their version of a 3c. It pairs pretty well with Strad 37. PM if you're interested.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to make a number of redundant points, but BJ at Monette will help you find exactly what you need.

One thing that has not been mentioned so far is that on the Monette comparison chart - https://www.monette.net/comparison-chart - shows that their lead mouthpiece, BL2S3, was modeled after a "Shew rim." Now, I have no idea what that means relative to the current Shew line of mouthpieces bring produced by Yamaha - if memory serves correctly, this size is relatively new, and was originally a custom piece for a lead player who may have been a Shew student.

As for which Monette plays best on a Bach Strad 37 ML, that's not a question you can ever expect to gain an objective, final answer for. First of all, that is one of the most popular horns, ever, and no mouthpiece maker with an ounce of business acumen would sell mpcs to the general public without making sure they worked well on this set-up. Secondly, Bach 37s play wildly different horn-to-horn, with vintage being quite a determining factor, as well. As has been mentioned above, the taper of the 37 is quite a bit narrower/sharper than the Z model Yamahas, so since you've kept the horn as a constant, a mouthpiece with a somewhat more dispersed backbore taper may also be a consideration.

Happy hunting!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool. Thanks for the informative answers. I just bought a ht3 jazz. I'm very satisfied with it. I'm guess I'm just building up a collection at this point. I also have a Harrelson mouthpiece. They are cool because they give me so much more volume than anything else.

Peace,

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