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mrhappy Veteran Member
Joined: 03 Dec 2018 Posts: 371 Location: Port Jackson, NY
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:07 pm Post subject: What are the White Gloves For?? |
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So I bought a cheap pocket trumpet and it came with some accessories, one of which was a pair of white gloves. Are these for:
A) Performing/ practicing so as not to soil the horn's finish?
B) To wear while cleaning/ polishing horn to avoid fingerprints and whatnot?
C) To use for Michael Jackson impression?
D) Directing traffic in a busy intersection?
I've been using them while wiping my horns down after practicing and while they do work well for this, they are a bit slippery... I'm a little worried that at some point while trying to keep my precious horns all nice and shinny that I might instead send a horn off on some sort of 'solo flight' with a crash landing!
Anyway... Do any of you use white gloves for anything?? _________________ MH |
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etc-etc Heavyweight Member
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Insensato Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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I teach middle school band+orch in an area where most often, the cheap instrument brands that supply white gloves are all that students can afford.
Setting ALL commentary about that situation aside, I will say that the instrument brands that supply white gloves are rather low quality and not close to reputable, name-brand, do-the-job-right, horns. I've noticed that the "white-glove" brands HAVE been increasing standards within the last year or two though!
The gloves are not really worth using to preserve the finish on the instruments, and the gloves are mostly just something to either leave in the case, or to toss into the garbage. Occasionally, I'll see a goofball student of mine fooling around with the white gloves during class, which does indeed inspire some funny moments. _________________ Every Villain Is Lemons |
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LittleRusty Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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They actually supply them because many musicians’ day job is working as a waiter.
Joke.
Marching bands often require white gloves for performances. I always thought that is what they were intended for. |
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pinstriper Veteran Member
Joined: 25 Sep 2013 Posts: 340 Location: Portlandia, OR
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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They do serve a purpose in keeping fingerprint acids off the finish and may extend the life of the finish.
I don't bother with them, however. But when I was marching in a drum corps and it was their horn, not mine, and they said wear the gloves, I wore the gloves. Plus, it was also part of the uniform so being accustomed to wearing them while playing was important. _________________ ~'77 DEG Dynasty II Soprano Bugle in G
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Interestingly, in my University marching band, the first trumpet players with silver horns wore white gloves in rehearsal, to keep hand oils from tarnishing the horn.
But as for the low-end horns the come with gloves, they cost just a few cents to include, and it is a perceived accessory to impress unaware buyers. They won't help a lacquered horn all that much. Use them as you wish. Play the horn with them, why not? Do jazz hands, direct traffic, etc. _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Insensato wrote: | Occasionally, I'll see a goofball student of mine fooling around with the white gloves during class, which does indeed inspire some funny moments. |
Haha! Yes I can imagine!! _________________ MH |
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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LittleRusty wrote: | They actually supply them because many musicians’ day job is working as a waiter.
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Maybe I'd better keep them around then... just in case!! _________________ MH |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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They help you in writing Chinese. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | They help you in writing Chinese. |
Can't write Chinese but I sure do EAT a Lot of it!! _________________ MH |
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Seymor B Fudd Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:55 am Post subject: |
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mrhappy wrote: | kehaulani wrote: | They help you in writing Chinese. |
Can't write Chinese but I sure do EAT a Lot of it!! |
So do I - whenever I find a Chinese restaurant. And - I have started to wear thin cheap cotton gloves whenever I practice with my new Yamaha 6335RC - hoping not to wear out the lacquer prematurely.
In fact when I got the 3 horns I was interested in from the dealer there was a note telling me to wear gloves in order to protect the Hub van Laar B5, the "raw" model..
Made quite a show when I brought these horns to the big band to have the the trumpet section test them - I told them to wear gloves (having bought a dozen in the local pharmacy). There we were, 4 guys wearing white gloves! Stunningly handsome (as all trumpet sections)
That´s how gloves entered my musical world! It will never be the same again. _________________ Cornets: mp 143D3/ DW Ultra 1,5 C
Getzen 300 series
Yamaha YCRD2330II
Yamaha YCR6330II
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Selmer - when I was a kid, well worn tools of one sort or another - Karate belts, musical instruments, etc. showed they had been used for a long time: bragging rites. Shiny meant new, little used, inexperienced. _________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
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Voltrane Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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A few years ago I bought white gloves on eBay. They were delivered with a trumpet but as the gloves had only four fingers, I understood it was the Alien special serie and sent all back. |
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Seymor B Fudd Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:28 am Post subject: |
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kehaulani wrote: | Selmer - when I was a kid, well worn tools of one sort or another - Karate belts, musical instruments, etc. showed they had been used for a long time: bragging rites. Shiny meant new, little used, inexperienced. |
Sure - if I want to impress I can always bring my King Super 20 Symphony, bought 1970. Looking very used.
However the tear and wear today is visible in my elderly face.
Looking at a shiny horn makes me feel younger! As long as I do not see my own reflection. _________________ Cornets: mp 143D3/ DW Ultra 1,5 C
Getzen 300 series
Yamaha YCRD2330II
Yamaha YCR6330II
Getzen Eterna Eb
Trumpets:
Yamaha 6335 RC Schilke 14B
King Super 20 Symphony DB (1970)
Selmer Eb/D trumpet (1974) |
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Voltrane wrote: | A few years ago I bought white gloves on eBay. They were delivered with a trumpet but as the gloves had only four fingers, I understood it was the Alien special serie and sent all back. |
Haha... must have been for one of those 4 valve piccolos! _________________ MH |
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mrhappy Veteran Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Seymor B Fudd wrote: |
Looking at a shiny horn makes me feel younger! As long as I do not see my own reflection. |
Yeah who wants to see that!! Haha! _________________ MH |
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Brad361 Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Seymor B Fudd wrote: | ....
Made quite a show when I brought these horns to the big band to have the the trumpet section test them - I told them to wear gloves (having bought a dozen in the local pharmacy). There we were, 4 guys wearing white gloves! Stunningly handsome (as all trumpet sections)
That´s how gloves entered my musical world! It will never be the same again. |
Hmmm, so....gloves kept the horns externally pristine, while multiple horns were played by multiple guys, blowing multiple bits of whatever we humans have in our mouths into them.....😉😉
Just kidding Seymour!
Hey, there’s certainly nothing wrong with getting others’ opinions on different horns, but since it’s such a subjective thing, I don’t care very much about what someone else thinks about a particular instrument. What works for me might not for the next guy.
I do keep my horns internally clean, and I do wipe them off quickly and run a swab through the leadpipe after playing, but these days I don’t worry much about whether they’re externally shiny.
To each his own, though!
Brad _________________ When asked if he always sounds great:
"I always try, but not always, because the horn is merciless, unpredictable and traitorous." - Arturo Sandoval |
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kehaulani Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Seymor B Fudd wrote: | kehaulani wrote: | Selmer - when I was a kid, well worn tools of one sort or another - Karate belts, musical instruments, etc. showed they had been used for a long time: bragging rites. Shiny meant new, little used, inexperienced. |
Sure - if I want to impress I can always bring my King Super 20 Symphony, bought 1970. Looking very used.
However the tear and wear today is visible in my elderly face.
Looking at a shiny horn makes me feel younger! As long as I do not see my own reflection. |
_________________ "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn." Bird
Yamaha 8310Z Bobby Shew trumpet
Benge 3X Trumpet
Benge 3X Cornet
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A.N.A.Mendez Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:00 am Post subject: |
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To distract you from the fact that the valves are crapola. _________________ "There is no necessity for deadly strife" A. Lincoln 1860
☛ "No matter how cynical you get, it's never enough to keep up" Lily Tomlin☚ |
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Dale Proctor Heavyweight Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Mickey Mouse gloves for a Mickey Mouse trumpet. _________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away ." - Sir Thomas Beecham |
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