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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:07 pm    Post subject: What are the White Gloves For?? Reply with quote

So I bought a cheap pocket trumpet and it came with some accessories, one of which was a pair of white gloves. Are these for:

A) Performing/ practicing so as not to soil the horn's finish?

B) To wear while cleaning/ polishing horn to avoid fingerprints and whatnot?

C) To use for Michael Jackson impression?

D) Directing traffic in a busy intersection?

I've been using them while wiping my horns down after practicing and while they do work well for this, they are a bit slippery... I'm a little worried that at some point while trying to keep my precious horns all nice and shinny that I might instead send a horn off on some sort of 'solo flight' with a crash landing!

Anyway... Do any of you use white gloves for anything??
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach middle school band+orch in an area where most often, the cheap instrument brands that supply white gloves are all that students can afford.

Setting ALL commentary about that situation aside, I will say that the instrument brands that supply white gloves are rather low quality and not close to reputable, name-brand, do-the-job-right, horns. I've noticed that the "white-glove" brands HAVE been increasing standards within the last year or two though!

The gloves are not really worth using to preserve the finish on the instruments, and the gloves are mostly just something to either leave in the case, or to toss into the garbage. Occasionally, I'll see a goofball student of mine fooling around with the white gloves during class, which does indeed inspire some funny moments.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They actually supply them because many musicians’ day job is working as a waiter.

Joke.

Marching bands often require white gloves for performances. I always thought that is what they were intended for.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They do serve a purpose in keeping fingerprint acids off the finish and may extend the life of the finish.

I don't bother with them, however. But when I was marching in a drum corps and it was their horn, not mine, and they said wear the gloves, I wore the gloves. Plus, it was also part of the uniform so being accustomed to wearing them while playing was important.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly, in my University marching band, the first trumpet players with silver horns wore white gloves in rehearsal, to keep hand oils from tarnishing the horn.

But as for the low-end horns the come with gloves, they cost just a few cents to include, and it is a perceived accessory to impress unaware buyers. They won't help a lacquered horn all that much. Use them as you wish. Play the horn with them, why not? Do jazz hands, direct traffic, etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insensato wrote:
Occasionally, I'll see a goofball student of mine fooling around with the white gloves during class, which does indeed inspire some funny moments.


Haha! Yes I can imagine!!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LittleRusty wrote:
They actually supply them because many musicians’ day job is working as a waiter.


Maybe I'd better keep them around then... just in case!!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They help you in writing Chinese.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
They help you in writing Chinese.


Can't write Chinese but I sure do EAT a Lot of it!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrhappy wrote:
kehaulani wrote:
They help you in writing Chinese.


Can't write Chinese but I sure do EAT a Lot of it!!


So do I - whenever I find a Chinese restaurant. And - I have started to wear thin cheap cotton gloves whenever I practice with my new Yamaha 6335RC - hoping not to wear out the lacquer prematurely.
In fact when I got the 3 horns I was interested in from the dealer there was a note telling me to wear gloves in order to protect the Hub van Laar B5, the "raw" model..
Made quite a show when I brought these horns to the big band to have the the trumpet section test them - I told them to wear gloves (having bought a dozen in the local pharmacy). There we were, 4 guys wearing white gloves! Stunningly handsome (as all trumpet sections)
That´s how gloves entered my musical world! It will never be the same again.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Selmer - when I was a kid, well worn tools of one sort or another - Karate belts, musical instruments, etc. showed they had been used for a long time: bragging rites. Shiny meant new, little used, inexperienced.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years ago I bought white gloves on eBay. They were delivered with a trumpet but as the gloves had only four fingers, I understood it was the Alien special serie and sent all back.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kehaulani wrote:
Selmer - when I was a kid, well worn tools of one sort or another - Karate belts, musical instruments, etc. showed they had been used for a long time: bragging rites. Shiny meant new, little used, inexperienced.


Sure - if I want to impress I can always bring my King Super 20 Symphony, bought 1970. Looking very used.
However the tear and wear today is visible in my elderly face.
Looking at a shiny horn makes me feel younger! As long as I do not see my own reflection.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voltrane wrote:
A few years ago I bought white gloves on eBay. They were delivered with a trumpet but as the gloves had only four fingers, I understood it was the Alien special serie and sent all back.


Haha... must have been for one of those 4 valve piccolos!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seymor B Fudd wrote:

Looking at a shiny horn makes me feel younger! As long as I do not see my own reflection.


Yeah who wants to see that!! Haha!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seymor B Fudd wrote:
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Made quite a show when I brought these horns to the big band to have the the trumpet section test them - I told them to wear gloves (having bought a dozen in the local pharmacy). There we were, 4 guys wearing white gloves! Stunningly handsome (as all trumpet sections)
That´s how gloves entered my musical world! It will never be the same again.


Hmmm, so....gloves kept the horns externally pristine, while multiple horns were played by multiple guys, blowing multiple bits of whatever we humans have in our mouths into them.....😉😉

Just kidding Seymour!

Hey, there’s certainly nothing wrong with getting others’ opinions on different horns, but since it’s such a subjective thing, I don’t care very much about what someone else thinks about a particular instrument. What works for me might not for the next guy.

I do keep my horns internally clean, and I do wipe them off quickly and run a swab through the leadpipe after playing, but these days I don’t worry much about whether they’re externally shiny.

To each his own, though!

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Seymor B Fudd wrote:
kehaulani wrote:
Selmer - when I was a kid, well worn tools of one sort or another - Karate belts, musical instruments, etc. showed they had been used for a long time: bragging rites. Shiny meant new, little used, inexperienced.


Sure - if I want to impress I can always bring my King Super 20 Symphony, bought 1970. Looking very used.
However the tear and wear today is visible in my elderly face.
Looking at a shiny horn makes me feel younger! As long as I do not see my own reflection.



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To distract you from the fact that the valves are crapola.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mickey Mouse gloves for a Mickey Mouse trumpet.
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