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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2013 Posts: 654 Location: Elkhorn, WI.
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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jetjaguar wrote: |
And as far as wives go, when we toured Kanstul as a family about a year ago, my wife was persuaded to let me buy at least a mouthpiece, after receiving a very thorough and informative tour from Jack. |
It seems that the best course of action would be to plan a trip to the factory in Elkhorn Wisconsin then. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
Getzen Company |
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JetJaguar Heavyweight Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 1518 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't put it past me. In the 80's I bought a gold plated, much engraved Holton made in the 20's. It had a small bell, might have been a Revelation or Llewellen. It was made in Elkhorn. I decided Elkhorn was the "other Elkhart" _________________ 1938 Martin Handcraft Imperial #2 bore, 38 bell
Bach 7C mouthpiece
I'm looking for a Connstellation 5C-N or 5B-N mouthpiece
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loweredsixth Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 1844 Location: Fresno, California, USA, North America, Earth, Solar System, Orion Arm, Milky Way Galaxy, Universe
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:09 am Post subject: |
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I was able to play this horn (copper bell one) at the Horn Shop in Fresno. I played the Getzen and my CarolBrass trumpet back and forth for a good hour. Writing a review of horns is tricky, because my impressions of the horn are related to my general skill level, my preferences, the room, my physical condition that day, etc.
First and foremost, like every Getzen I've played, the horn is very well conceptualized...no inherent problems at all (i.e. if you know how to play in tune, this horn will not fight you.) The valves are absolutely perfect, and the horn is put together well...it looks like they are very tight with their quality control. It's a medium weight horn, and the different colors of metal used make a striking appearance. One last thing, the vertical distance where you hold the horn is smaller than I'm used to. My hands felt slightly cramped.
Now for the subjective stuff. I have never played a horn that could change color as easily and quickly as this horn. For me, it was softer = darker, louder = brighter. The overall range of color was VERY large. I'm sure this was due to the copper bell. The slots were a little looser than I like, but I like a very heavy slotting horn. It felt very easy to move around the horn...it felt nimble. I can’t comment on the projection because I was in a relatively small, dead room. One odd thing for me was that at first the lower register (C and below) was sharp for me. After playing the horn for a while, that register settled in to be in tune. Above the staff was nice and open, with no notes pulling sharp or flat.
Ultimately, the horn is not for me. The slightly cramped hand space would bother me (maybe I have very large hands?), and the tonal shift from bright to dark was just too pronounced for my liking. I would think lead players would love this horn for that reason though (easily blendable in the staff, but bright and projecting above the staff.) One thing for sure, is that this is a world class horn with better quality control than I usually see in other horns. _________________ The name I go by in the real world is Joe Lewis |
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Tobylou8 Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2019 Posts: 157
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:11 am Post subject: |
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What a beautiful horn!!! I would love to get my hands on one to try. It reminds me of the very elusive Copra-temp from the 50's. The case also reminds me of my old Super Deluxe case, only much nicer. I would enjoy comparing it to my Severinsen and 900Hs. I'll have to call my dealer. I'm a sucker for copper beauties. |
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Getzen Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 1917
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Here is a new list of dealers that have received 900DLX and 907DLX Eterna Deluxe trumpets. Some repeat customers, some new.
Again, if you are interested in trying one for yourself and your local dealer isn't on this or the previous list, let them know you are interested. Drive the demand.
900DLX
Boomer Music Company
Fort Collins, Colorado
www.boomermusiccompany.com
Hill Music Company
Casper, Wyoming
www.hillmusiccompanywy.com
ADA Music Center
Ada, Oklahoma
www.adamusiccenter.com
Brickhouse Music
River Falls, Wisconsin
www.brickhousemusic.com
West Michigan Band
Grand Rapids, Michigan
www.westmichiganband.com
Daminelli Pietro
Bergamo, Italy
www.daminellipietro.it
900DLXS
Ted Brown Music Co.
Washington State
www.tedbrownmusic.com
The Horn Shop
Fresno, California
www.thehornshop.com
Tarpley Music Company
Texas State
www.tarpleymusic.com
907DLX
Instrumental Music
Tucson, Arizona
www.imc-az.com
Dillon Music
Woodbridge, New Jersey
www.dillonmusic.com
Milano Music Center
Mesa, Arizona
www.milanomusic.com
John Keal Music Co.
Albany, New York
www.johnkealmusic.com
Daminelli Pietro
Bergamo, Italy
www.daminellipietro.it
Ted Brown Music Co.
Washington State
www.tedbrownmusic.com
907DLXS
Kennelly Keys Music
Seattle, Washington
www.kennellykeysmusic.com
A & G Music
Oakland, California
www.agmusic.com
Cascio Music Co.
New Berlin, WI
www.interstatemusic.com
Ted Brown Music Co.
Washington State
www.tedbrownmusic.com
Boomer Music Company
Fort Collins, Colorado
www.boomermusiccompany.com _________________ Brett Getzen
President
Getzen Company
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If you have a question please feel free to email me at brett@getzen.com. |
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Orban Regular Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2018 Posts: 66
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:04 am Post subject: |
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A few years ago, Thomann (Germany - a big music store ... and a good one) was a Getzen dealer.
Not anymore.
Does anyone know the reason? ... Brett? |
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Getzen Heavyweight Member
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 1917
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Actually, Thomann was never an official Getzen dealer. Long story short, our export distributors are bound by geographical restrictions. French distributor agrees to sell only in France, Germany in Germany, Italy in Italy, etc... A pretty common practice. However, because Thomann is a retailer that sells everywhere, we never directly supplied them as it would be a violation of our own distributor agreements. That being said, some of our distributors and/or their dealers chose to supply Thomann with instruments over the years. That is where their supply of Getzen and Edwards instruments came from. Also why their supply and availability was always fluctuating. _________________ Brett Getzen
President
Getzen Company
Follow Getzen on:
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/getzencompany/
Twitter https://twitter.com/GetzenCompany
If you have a question please feel free to email me at brett@getzen.com. |
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Orban Regular Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2018 Posts: 66
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Brett Getzen,
That explains it.
Orban. |
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Dayton Heavyweight Member
Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 2025 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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I've been playing a 900DLX for a few weeks ago and wanted to share my impressions.
First off, this horn really, really impresses me. I always liked the Getzen 900 Severinsen horns. There is a reason why they have remained popular for so many years. The 900DLX is...better. The sound seems fuller and richer with a lovely ring to it, without losing any of the control, focus and projection that the Getzen 900 is known for.
Second, for what it is worth, it is a very attractive horn (in clear lacquer). My wife looked at it and exclaimed that it was "beautiful." She said that it only trumpet she's seen that fits that description. The case it also quite attractive and protective, though I wish it had a handle on one of the ends. Also, no room for mutes in the case, so you'll be using your gig bag or carrying a mute bag to rehearsals/gigs. Not a big deal, but worth noting.
Definitely a horn to seek out and try! |
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jadickson Heavyweight Member
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 1294 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Can you please post a video so we can hear it? |
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tptva004 Regular Member
Joined: 23 Sep 2018 Posts: 23
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Speed wrote: | ...To me, the greatest advantage the internet stores have is their financing, which appears to be nearly universally done through Synchrony Bank. If you need a new trumpet, and WWBW is offering essentially the same price as your local store; but WWBW's financing allows 36 months at zero percent, and the local store is running their financing through a high interest factoring operation, that is generally going to cause one to grit his teeth and buy through the internet store. That's a huge advantage for the internet retailers.
I wish there were some way that some of the brick and mortar stores could band together to offer financing arrangements (perhaps through Synchrony Bank) that were competitive with the internet retailers... |
This is because almost all of the major internet retailers are actually the same company (music and arts, WWBW, music123, musicianfriend, etc, are all one conglomerate). That's why they have the same financing and the purchasing power to reduce prices (while making a profit) that make local stores unable to compete (and their size and general philosophy contribute to their lacking customer service).
As someone who works in the finance industry, I can tell you that financing packages like those offered by Synchrony require the retailer to have millions of dollars in sales annually to qualify. I'd bet most local stores (even small chains) can't qualify. And they wouldn't qualify by teaming up unless one of them bought the others.
As long as we trumpeters continue choosing the cheapest option from poorly informed sales reps we will continue to have less options for trying new horns and will offer less support for R&D from companies that care about their customers (like Getzen and Adams and Kanstul, if they recover). The Getzens' advice about making our voices heard to our local retailers is excellent. Hopefully it is widely followed! |
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Speed Veteran Member
Joined: 13 May 2015 Posts: 295 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:26 am Post subject: |
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My experience buying trumpets from brick and mortar stores is that the sales reps are pretty knowledgeable - maybe not like the staff at a brass specialty shop, but more so than what you find in the combo department.
I suspected that Synchrony Bank required tons of sales from a retailer to "join the club" so your insight's not surprising.
Take care,
Marc Speed |
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Tobylou8 Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2019 Posts: 157
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:22 am Post subject: |
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A local rep came by band one night a few weeks ago. They are having a "clinic/sale" in May. I asked SPECIFICALLY about the 900DLX and did they have one or would one be there? THAT is the horn I was interested in, nothing else. He said he would get back with me. He got back with me and said that a 900DLX would not be there BUT a bunch of other good horns will. Siiiiiiiiiigh. I won't be going, there's no point, but thanks for the info on horns I'm not interested in. |
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trumpjosh Heavyweight Member
Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Posts: 741 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Speed wrote: | My experience buying trumpets from brick and mortar stores is that the sales reps are pretty knowledgeable - maybe not like the staff at a brass specialty shop, but more so than what you find in the combo department.
I suspected that Synchrony Bank required tons of sales from a retailer to "join the club" so your insight's not surprising.
Take care,
Marc Speed |
The store I work at is a one-location family owned business and we do have Synchrony available for financing. I'm not sure how big you need to be, but we're certainly not huge. _________________ www.milanomusic.com |
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Claude1949 Veteran Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2018 Posts: 188 Location: maryland
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Adam R. Getzen wrote: | TrptSTP wrote: | I wasn't intending to spread misinformation about your new cases. My bad. |
No problem. Brett did a great job getting that case made how we wanted it. The whole package something we're both very proud of. |
I have a vintage Martin case, exactly like that...... _________________ Claudio |
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Speed Veteran Member
Joined: 13 May 2015 Posts: 295 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Trumpjosh, thanks for that info. I'm bookmarking Milano Music, and will check in the next time I'm in the market for a new trumpet.
Take care,
Marc Speed |
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giakara Heavyweight Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2003 Posts: 3832 Location: Greece
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:35 am Post subject: |
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The copper model reminds me my first eterna back in 1997 , it was a LB copper bell model with terrific valves and a sound to die for ... and very open high registers.
I wish I could try it but in my country we don't have Getzen dealer many years now.
Regards _________________ Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2015
Lawler TL6-1A Bb 2004
Lawler TL5-1A Bb 2003
Getzen eterna 910 C
Getzen eterna 850 cornet
Selmer Paris 3 valve picc
Yamaha 731 flugel
Carol mini pocket
Reeves/Purviance mpcs |
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Tobylou8 Veteran Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2019 Posts: 157
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:56 am Post subject: |
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giakara wrote: | The copper model reminds me my first eterna back in 1997 , it was a LB copper bell model with terrific valves and a sound to die for ... and very open high registers.
I wish I could try it but in my country we don't have Getzen dealer many years now.
Regards | I feel your pain and I have a Getzen dealer!!!!! |
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Adam R. Getzen Heavyweight Member
Joined: 04 Apr 2013 Posts: 654 Location: Elkhorn, WI.
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:02 am Post subject: |
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Tobylou8 wrote: | giakara wrote: | The copper model reminds me my first eterna back in 1997 , it was a LB copper bell model with terrific valves and a sound to die for ... and very open high registers.
I wish I could try it but in my country we don't have Getzen dealer many years now.
Regards | I feel your pain and I have a Getzen dealer!!!!! |
Have they said why they don't have one in yet? Seriously delivery on the Deluxe models is the fastest of our entire line thus far. _________________ Adam R. Getzen
Vice President & Co-Owner
Getzen Company |
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James Becker Heavyweight Member
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 2827 Location: Littleton, MA
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:56 am Post subject: |
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I just finished a silver plated 900 "Classic" cleaning and play test. Just WOW, what a sweet trumpet.
Of course I had to measure the venturi and gap, .352" opening on a nickel pipe and .125" gap. This is +.001" larger than the vintage Severinsen we currently have in the shop, and speculate that's to make up for the more resistant blowing nickel alloy.
Kudos to the good folks at Getzen, you really hit this one out of the park! _________________ James Becker
Brass Repair Specialist Since 1977
Osmun Music Inc.
77 Powdermill Road Rt.62
Acton, MA 01720
www.osmun.com
Our workshop is as close as your nearest UPS store https://www.ups.com/dropoff?loc=en_US |
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